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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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From GigaBerlin on Youtube:
Possible locations for the ground breaking ceremony and accommodation for the workers.
Possible locations for the ground breaking ceremony and accommodation for the workers.
feigen66
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Musk might be inspired by this:
In fact Google Map had similar ideas years ago:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2015/03/31/pac-man-google/70715966/
Sounds more like a comment on the soon the steering wheel will be removable allowing the entertainment stuff to be usable while driving
Funny, because ...
You did not know what you were doing, but went all in (on margin)
OR you knew what you did, but don't know what to do
Not sure what prior poster with broken English who was in similar position as you did few mths back.
Best wishes. Cheers!!
Battery day, considering it will be Tesla’s most exiting day ever, to paraphrase Elon, should be
Bullish for the stock. Resuming production at Fremont is also a bullish event. These
2 events should occur in May.
Thereafter it may be a matter of how quickly consumer confidence is restored.
Normalizing human behavior will play a roll.
If an effective therapy and / or vaccine appears, then we should expect full confidence
Restored. The odds of this being realized in the short run appear small.
Otherwise we might be tip-toeing our way back to confidence and spending.
This may cap the upside on the stock, though I would not dare choreograph
It’s movement. Markets frequently look beyond the valley.
My only advise is to buy as low as you can and hold on until Elon sells.
StealthP3D
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Why do so many twist the words of such a great American patriot?
He didn't say you had to drink the bleach, I mean, people are saying a bleach enema might be a very, very beautiful thing.
I love your optimism but supply chains and ramping up of manufacturing operations is complex. It is clear Elon and Zach are worried about the uncertainty. Even if we start mid May you are not going to get to peak production for at least 3-4 weeks.
That previously leaked email about recalling paint shop workers on April 29th was a strong indicator of Tesla’s plans. Paint shops require extra set up time for processing as compared to the building of the cars with the discrete parts. I would look for another leak along these lines to get a good idea about when the manufacturing lines will reopen.
Whenever Tesla restarts I expect them to primarily focus on Model Y production and try to deliver as many of those as possible. It appears there is still decent inventory available for the other models. Including GF3 I see production of 80-90K for this quarter. The bigger question for me is how much cash we expect to burn in Q2.
Bill and Zuck and Bezos probably have publicists and PR agencies promoting them.
Elon is left with click bait journalist having a field day at his expense.
Priceless. Getting endorsement and actively pushing people to buy the freedom car Tesla is now a symbol of is crazy. On one side it's the symbol of climate change, on the other it's now an American flag. Musk has all his bases covered. Kind of what happens when he give zero F while other CEOs couldn't dare to dream of being so liberal with their mouth. This is what happens when you have 1% market share and the rest is for you gain vs other companies in which they have everything to lose with such rants.
I was able to avoid liquidating in 2019 when the stock dropped below 250 by buying Puts every week to make my margin calls go away. My brokerage account has a "Margin Calculator" that lets you see what you need to buy to make the margin call go away. You might need to buy Puts with 500 SP, or maybe 300. Plug the numbers into the calculator (to see how many you need to buy and at what SP). In the end I spent a few thousand dollars buying Putts that I knew would expire worthless every week in order to hold onto my shares that are now worth much, much more. Good luck.
P.S. - I could not do the trades on-line because with the margin call, it said I didn't have the money to buy the Puts. However, by calling and talking to a broker each week, they would let me buy the Puts on margin because doing so would make the margin call go away immediately.
P.P.S - I was buying one week at a time because we were close to the bottom when the SP got around the 200 level. If I bought new Puts on the Friday (before the expiring ones expired), I would have been able to do them online because I would not have a new margin call yet, but it was cheaper to buy the new Puts each Monday. Because the SP could drop a lot over the next month, you will need to decide if it makes more sense to spend more to buy Puts that expire 1-3 months from now rather than one week from now. The problem is you will need to buy a lot of them (possibly enough to cover all your shares), and they will probably expire worthless in the end, so you have to figure out what money you are willing to throw away to keep your shares.
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StealthP3D
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Ummm, no. Musk is a thinking man, he would be like "What, why aren't they electric?". Two-stroke engines and a plume of toxic gasses. And don't even try to visualize what would happen in a minor accident!
Interesting information, thanks for sharing. Wouldn’t selling calls also have the same effect?
edit: Nevermind I see why buying puts is what the brokers would prefer.
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Another fascinating week ahead in the epic tale of Tesla.
Perhaps a date is set by CA/Alemeda for reopening Fremont, Battery Day is scheduled, Elon’s tweets are all positive. Oh happy week.
Perhaps Fremont’s reopening continues to be murky, Elon’s mood darkens further, and starts tweeting stuff that even the most Elon-tolerant posters here can’t condone. Oh miserable week.
Buckle up.
Perhaps a date is set by CA/Alemeda for reopening Fremont, Battery Day is scheduled, Elon’s tweets are all positive. Oh happy week.
Perhaps Fremont’s reopening continues to be murky, Elon’s mood darkens further, and starts tweeting stuff that even the most Elon-tolerant posters here can’t condone. Oh miserable week.
Buckle up.
No, selling calls earns you just a little bit of money, probably not enough to cover the Margin call. If the Margin call is big enough, and let us assume you own 3,000 shares, you might need to buy 30 Puts to cover all those shares. What I found interesting is that the Puts you buy can have a surprisingly low SP, which means they don't cost too much. This is where the Margin calculator comes into play. For example, you would plug into the calculator buying 30 Puts with 300 SP and see what happens. It might make the margin call go away completely. IF not, you try with a SP of 350, then 400, until it works. Obviously, the higher the SP, the more they cost, so you want to buy the Puts with the lowest SP possible that will meet the Margin requirement.
I get it. Sounds horrible. But there are multiple dozens of questions you could be asking about this instead of just reading an article that has determined the outcome for you. There are some really pragmatic questions about this specific topic. It is not as black and white as Trump EPA bad, Trump Policy promotes pollution, Bad Trump. Emotional topics like this typically blinds people from asking the other questions or seeing the gray. That is why fears works so well to move people the way they want. You are correct that this is not for this thread but my original post was and was just a response to what was already being discussed.
Btw, gotta love how you throw in your own political view point then tell me to go take it elsewhere because I'm off topic. Classic.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
So did you read my comment from March 26, 2020 (which I linked to yesterday)? In that estimate, I called for a single shift to resume production, 50% production rate for the remainder of Q2 (restart date somewhere between the 1st and 15th of May), 75% production rate in Q3, and not returning to full rated production capacity until Q4. And still making 500K production achievable in 2020.
BTW, I predicted Model 3 production for 2019Q4 at 86,944 units back on Oct 3, 2019 (3 mths in advance). Tesla's production number released on Jan 2, 2020? 86,958. So there is that 14 units error. Seems I forgot to account for Leap Hour in November
@mongoYes, I do have some formal training in logistics planning. As an Army Officer, I placed 2nd in my class at Staff College; bested by a very bookish young medical doctor (nice girl). My last assignment before I retired was Ast. G3 (Ops and Trg) for the Brigade.
#LOGISTICS
If this is actually true, find someone qualified to manage your money.
You are literally betting your house, marriage, etc, on TSLA going to 1500 by this Fall?
Just go find a casino and at least get some free drinks while you gamble away everything you have.
An effective therapy has already appeared and could restore confidence quickly, but it is not one that the pharmaceutical industry wants promoted.
I wish everyone would take a few minutes to learn about it and spread the news, because media dependent on drug advertising will not do it, just as media dependent on car advertising will not be fair to Tesla.
Protected Group Immunity, Not a Vaccine, is the Way to Stop the COVID-19 Pandemic
by Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD
Dr. Cheng is Associate Director of three current clinical trials in China, according to this source.
His impressive curriculum vitae is here.
His article's many references are mostly peer-reviewed medical journals, as you can see for yourself.
I see this happening and was thinking yesterday about this very topic, so here is my idea... roughly.
Lets say you have a favorite piece of road u love to drive hard. A first, u run thu it and record the video and position of you car.
Now you go home and that road is now a racing game and u can race yourself. The initial recorded version is agmented into the video as a ghost car that u try to beat. When u think ur better, take another recording in real life. Back in the garage, the pace of the video is set by your driving the sim.
Virtual racing, your track, agaist yourself or others, real time or async. All possible.
Go for it Tesla! Maybe I should respond to the tweet directly, but Id be suprised that someone at Tesla hasn't already thought of this.
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