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Okay, so you know nothing about Apple. How about Tesla? Same?
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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I actually think Tim is on a bit of a hot seat over at Apple and is getting pressure from multiple sides that he needs to do something to get Apple innovating again. The past 5 years have shown that Cook can't do that organically. Apple has been unable to get into markets beyond the phone, tablet, and laptop. I think Apple is actively looking into companies to buy or partner with in order to get into new markets.
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TIL that there's a baby elephant named Elon Tusk:
Who's going to be Elon's female twin? GM's CEO Mary T. Barta?
Big, Beautiful, And Rare: Twin Elephants In Tanzania
Today, the twins—brother, “Elon Tusk,” and sister, “Emma” (after the actress Emma Watson)—are 8 months old, playful, robust, and starting, in the words of Foley, “to pad out nicely.”
Today, the twins—brother, “Elon Tusk,” and sister, “Emma” (after the actress Emma Watson)—are 8 months old, playful, robust, and starting, in the words of Foley, “to pad out nicely.”
Who's going to be Elon's female twin? GM's CEO Mary T. Barta?
I agree. It’s only about 44% of the debt due in 2019, so it would be strange to make a big deal about paying this one piece.
RobStark
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He also said Tesla offers niche products and is overvalued.
Could be a headfake I suppose.
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On TeslaFi I saw the following go by on two Model S 100D firmware update records:
terminal/HW3-mileage
This was instead of the usual version number; it probably means that the version number format is different in a way that their script got confused. I think this is possibly an indication that we're seeing a new firmware release being tested that supports the new AP hardware. I'm not a member so I can't go searching around. Possibly such things have been showing up there all along and I've just never seen them.
But this, coupled with the firmware updates having been pretty much stopped over the past two days, makes me think that whatever we hear from Elon tomorrow will involve some new firmware going out. And it will likely enough be related to HW3.
Besides, I can't think of anything that would make Elon smile so much as getting to share a bunch of cool stuff that the updated AP will do on the new hardware. I'm prepared to be excited. And if it's sufficiently cool, we'll probably see a TSLA bump as well.
terminal/HW3-mileage
This was instead of the usual version number; it probably means that the version number format is different in a way that their script got confused. I think this is possibly an indication that we're seeing a new firmware release being tested that supports the new AP hardware. I'm not a member so I can't go searching around. Possibly such things have been showing up there all along and I've just never seen them.
But this, coupled with the firmware updates having been pretty much stopped over the past two days, makes me think that whatever we hear from Elon tomorrow will involve some new firmware going out. And it will likely enough be related to HW3.
Besides, I can't think of anything that would make Elon smile so much as getting to share a bunch of cool stuff that the updated AP will do on the new hardware. I'm prepared to be excited. And if it's sufficiently cool, we'll probably see a TSLA bump as well.
One could propose that a very heavy pachyderm is a baryderm....but somehow, I fear that term has no legs. So to speak.TIL that there's a baby elephant named Elon Tusk:
Big, Beautiful, And Rare: Twin Elephants In Tanzania
Today, the twins—brother, “Elon Tusk,” and sister, “Emma” (after the actress Emma Watson)—are 8 months old, playful, robust, and starting, in the words of Foley, “to pad out nicely.”
Who's going to be Elon's female twin? GM's CEO Mary T. Barta?
Gates doesn’t think renewables of wind/solar/batteries is the answer. He also seems to downplay Teslas impact and future.
Bill Gates Slams wind and solar
Elon teased some news in June 2017:
It turned out to be:
My guess for tomorrow is the Model 3 SR production and order commencement dates announcement. Orders will probably open only for the North American reservation holders. Probably some handover party to go with it.
They might make a combo of EAP + PuP for a much sweeter deal.
It turned out to be:
My guess for tomorrow is the Model 3 SR production and order commencement dates announcement. Orders will probably open only for the North American reservation holders. Probably some handover party to go with it.
They might make a combo of EAP + PuP for a much sweeter deal.
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For a brief semi-OT pause in speculation about what we'll learn tomorrow at 2 pm PT ....
Michael Cohen fingered Stewart Rahr -- the boss of Montana Skeptic (Larry Fossi) -- as the billionaire who was the "fake bidder" who paid $60K for a portrait of Trump, and was later reimbursed by the Trump Foundation.
Small world!
This billionaire reportedly paid $60K for a portrait of Trump. He was allegedly reimbursed by Trump's charity. - CNNPolitics
Michael Cohen fingered Stewart Rahr -- the boss of Montana Skeptic (Larry Fossi) -- as the billionaire who was the "fake bidder" who paid $60K for a portrait of Trump, and was later reimbursed by the Trump Foundation.
Small world!
This billionaire reportedly paid $60K for a portrait of Trump. He was allegedly reimbursed by Trump's charity. - CNNPolitics
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For China factory, where will Tesla get the money? How will it be funded? Where will they get the money? Blah blah blah
All the bears were screaming non stop and Dana Hull made a sarcastic comment even today on Twitter.
All the while bulls knew it and it was already laid out by Elon in Q4 earnings - low interest loans from China banks.
Tesla is lining up about $2 billion in loans for Shanghai Gigafactory: analyst report
All the bears were screaming non stop and Dana Hull made a sarcastic comment even today on Twitter.
All the while bulls knew it and it was already laid out by Elon in Q4 earnings - low interest loans from China banks.
Tesla is lining up about $2 billion in loans for Shanghai Gigafactory: analyst report
Apple Watch (health, medical EEG), Airpods, Services... they haven't been standing still and they make more $ from just these product than most S&P 500 companies.
Not dreaming or even saying it will happen. Pure conjecture based on EM tweets about Tusk/elephants and Buffett's statements about using an elephant gun.
Probability low, but possible.
What is your thought on the news coming out Thursday evening? Big, small, nothing burger?
Yeah.....I think you're post reaffirms my point. Doesn't matter if those services generate more revenue than most S&P companies(which is a bogus claim.....those companies don't have a market cap of 825 billion). Apple failed, spectacularly, at Apple TV and it's becoming more and more apparent they've failed at an Autonomous vehicles. When your new endeavors into new markets generate a very, very small fraction of your total revenue, it's considered a failure.
Listen I don’t want Apple to buy Tesla... I just want them to make an offer, have it taken all the way to board approval, before Elon reneges... BUT NOT before shorts get crushed.
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Could it be that most peoples here own $TSLA?? Imagine what will happen to SP if that turn out to be true. I think most if not almost everyone here are very bullish about $TSLA.
Causalien
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Probably nothing burger. From past Elon taunts like these. It's usually about the unvriling of a product. The impact of an unveiling with the current tsla is pretty minimal.
Though the coincidence with BRK's recent statements cannot be ignored. Of I have the cash hoard of brk, buying tsla is trivial. But same can be said about aapl. And both ceo of both company has the wrong mindset fit with tsla, except buffett tends to let the ceos of the original company run it the way they want.
Artful Dodger
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Honestly, with this stock, those indicators are more accurate than technical analysis!
Gut instincts vary widely, and are vulnerable to emotional trading (euphoria vs. dispair). IMHO, Technical Analysis (T/A) can be a useful tool of moderation, when used as a contributing factor among many others that inform your investment and trading strategy.
I posted this comment regarding T/A after the Market closed on Dec 12, 2018 (yes, 2 days before the start of the recent selloff in TSLA):
So here's what happened the following day, Dec 13, 2018:
- the intraday high was reached near the close at $377.44
- that was just $2.05 below the Dec 7 intraday high
- that's also $20 above the Dec 7 Low/Closing SP at $357.88
- this is screaming SELL SOME, PAPA! with SP above the Upper-BB
- alas, I dinna listen to the screams (more on that below)
- similar to the mini-squeeze on Dec 7 (just fewer Mitsubishi Zeros)
Inevitably, here's what TSLA did over the 2 weeks following its Dec 13 peak: (an $80 haircut)
Yep, saw that coming.
So I'd say T/A 'worked' (not that I liked the action), meaning T/A "predicted in advance", not "saw in hindsight" SP.It's mostly about the Bollinger Bands. When TSLA failed to break through the Upper-BB due to selling following the Dec 13 runup, instead the SP doggedly marched its way down the Bollinger band range to test support at the lower-BB. <expletive> Volatility.
For more color, here's the Dec 19 chart: (note how the BBs themselves moved down over the past 4 sessions).
IMHO, the issue is not whether T/A works, it's about having the confidence (and the capital) to trade based on it. Here my closing comment from Dec 12, 2018:
April is my 1st anniversary in this journey we call TSLA. I've held all my shares through all the swings since the July 2018 Q2 production announcement / selloff. Now I'm considering adding capital to my investment account. My goal is to have capital available quickly to take advantage of these dubious swings (GS, NYT, Joe Rogan, SEC, Bloomberg) to increase my core holdings.
I'm well-positioned for the eventual TSLA breakout, but none of us knows when that will come. Meanwhile, I'd like to take some gains as an Investor, not just watch as whipsaw profits go to the market-makers. I'll use T/A to inform my cash vs. shares holdings, and I'll also jump on FUD-inspired dips but use the profits to increase in my core holdings while preserving my cash balance. Yeah. That'll work for the next year.
And to summarize my past year in song, "regrets I have a few, but then again, too few to mention..."
Cheers, and GLTA!
P.S. today's T/A values for TSLA: (remember these do move over time, but slowly)
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Also while I say a partnership with Apple would be good.....it would have to be on Elon's/Tesla's terms. Apple would just be getting their services and software on Tesla hardware. So Apple music, their new streaming service, apps, etc.. I wouldn't want Apple touching anything else.
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