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The value of this forum has been on the decline but today it's worthless. I'm taking a break. It's clear there is no room for any opinion aside from "everything is perfect put all your cash in TSLA and trust Elon 100%". Reminds me of the opposite of TSLAQ.


You don't know my financial situation. Maybe I need to sell next week? There are thousands of other stocks out there, maybe I want to rebalance? This nonsense that paper losses triggered by an idiotic tweet are meaningless is ridiculous. And despite some notions, options trading is still investing.


I fear the answer may be no.


If you do then feel free to enlighten us. I see an erratic CEO dipping back into how he was before the past year of stability and it concerns me.
Good riddance
 
The value of this forum has been on the decline but today it's worthless. I'm taking a break. It's clear there is no room for any opinion aside from "everything is perfect put all your cash in TSLA and trust Elon 100%". Reminds me of the opposite of TSLAQ.


You don't know my financial situation. Maybe I need to sell next week? There are thousands of other stocks out there, maybe I want to rebalance? This nonsense that paper losses triggered by an idiotic tweet are meaningless is ridiculous. And despite some notions, options trading is still investing.


I fear the answer may be no.


If you do then feel free to enlighten us. I see an erratic CEO dipping back into how he was before the past year of stability and it concerns me.

Look, I’m not happy with his behavior. I do think it’s worth taking a breath and thinking long and hard (read: not emotionally) before making any decisions.

If after that you decide to sell, great, wash your hands and be done with it. Maybe a better entry or investment will materialize. But I don’t think making a quick decision and liquidating on what could easily be yet another bizarre blip in the Tesla story is a good idea.

I mean, we’re talking about a guy that has openly taken a hit off a joint in violation of federal law and publicly derided an already hostile SEC. Elon is many things, but a rock-solid model of stability is not one of them, for better or worse.
 
To expand: Although I cheer for Tesla to reopen early, I've accepted the possibility of the number of case balloons back up in a week or two which leads to much more uncertainties. But, I was willing to stick by Elon. You know what they say about Murphy; I was willing to deal with the last thing that could go wrong. Today, Elon went off the reservation signaled to me that it's already here and it was him no less.
 
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So some thoughts for me to consider...maybe others as well.

Has there ever in your life time seen a harder working, life changing figure than EM?

Most of us are pretty lazy.... "take it easy" "don't work too hard" come to mind. Sure we all put in a hard day now and again...but look yourself in the mirror and ask this.."Have I or anyone I know ever worked as hard as Elon Musk?"

Now think about this...after all that hard work you get to be called a crap-ton of names and told you are almost the exact opposite of what you are. "Rich spoiled billionaire...fraud...cheat"

When you try and help out anyone here come the slimy roaches who write garbage for a living...sub for kids trapped in a cave?...just a grab for glory.
Ventilators?... sure wrong kind and only doing it for fame and more money. On and on it goes.

Still because you have a heart that needs to help others you keep on...only way you know is to press forward full tilt and work your ass off.

Now you put forth a reasonable plan to get back to work...not because you need the money or fame...but because people rely on you and your company to SURVIVE. And here come the click bait bastages again..."Musk does not care about grandma or kittens"

Listen to the conference call...really listen to his words...is that a lunatic or a reasonable man that is frustrated with small minded people.

I do not agree with everything he says or does...hell I don't even agree with myself a fair percentage of the time.
But for a single person to have done what EM has through all the Rd blocks and BS ...he is truly amazing.

And for all the people screaming he has cost you money!!... Wow... believe in the mission and buy and hold...this is not a casino.

Edit too add I bought 30 more to go with the 30 I bought a couple days ago.
None of that is a reason to tank the SP with a tweet. That will only help the slimy roaches, click bait bastages and small-minded people you mentioned. It hurts his supporters.
 


Well said. Wake up sheep! This is TSLA investor thread and it just blows my mind how brainwashed some of you are (exception: the trolls)

Speaking of well said...hey, strongest of the weak longs that have finally had enough of Elon? You gonna back up those words with actions? In case you don't know what that means....a sane person would SELL AND GO AWAY. Your only contribution here is emotional hysteria and you probably have a gambling problem.
 
I have been long Tesla, shares only, no margin, for many years. My average cost is under $40. I have been there for the highs (sometimes literally) and lows. One fundamental part of my investment thesis is a belief that Elon Musk is a once-in-a-generation leader. This belief is being tested today. The mental gymnastics this thread is going through to justify the tweets, to explain what they “really mean” and shouting down anyone with the temerity to question them is sad. When you try to defend the indefensible, you yourself lose credibility. Why is it so hard to accept that Musk is capable of making mistakes?

I don’t like his comments on C19 but overlooked that as I felt people can disagree and still respect one another. I get the argument that the cure might be worse than the disease and that there are ways, and a pressing need, of safely resuming some economic activity. I’m also well aware that Musk is certainly much better informed than I am on the matter, and so I trusted him. When he started using dangerous language — and yes, words and phrasing do matter (“sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can f*** me up for life”) — I paused. These latest tweets have me fundamentally reassess my investment in Tesla for the first time.

I owe my roughly 20x gains to Musk, of that I’m certain. More importantly, the world is a better place and on a better path because of Musk's endeavours. The fact that the stock is down a bit today is irrelevant to me. TSLA always swings wildly. What has changed is the respect I have for Musk has been dented.

Luckily for me the markets in Europe don’t reopen until Monday and so I have time to reflect and react with logic rather than emotion. I’m already a lot calmer than even 30 minutes ago. Tesla as a company remains a fantastic opportunity with some amazing developments in the pipeline. I don’t think I’ll be selling any of my shares, but my finger is closer to the sell button than it has ever been. I’ll be watching developments over the weekend very closely.

To quote my mother, “I’m not angry, just disappointed.”

Call me a short/troll or put me on ignore if you think it will help.
 
And there is that 766.33 popping up again... WTF?

IT'S THE BATSIGNAL, I tell ya!

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"the "data" widely criticized by respected doctors and statisticians"

hhm..therein lies the problem. No one has called this COVID breakout right, not the political class, not Fauci, Birx, global epidemiologist forecasters, respected Doctors (btw: put 100 "respected" doctors in a room and you won't find universal agreement on much of anything), no one!

Having said that, Elon's tweet no doubt will bring legal troubles onto his doorstep again (and the Board too).....

I heard climate change deniers says the exactly same things too. I remember them cheer when some of the predictions turns out wrong. I remember them claiming the science is not settled. I remember them saying nobody knows whether EV reduce emissions.

I agree with this new virus the science is truly not settled yet. And I agree with argument of re-open with caution and protection.

But what he did is much more than that. He has been proven wrong about his prediction that we will see very few death by end of April. Now he began to attack the death numbers due to his confirmation bias, as if the body trucks and massive grave and the overwhelmed cremation workers in Wuhan are all fake.

The death numbers are hard to make right, there are under and over reporting at the same time but counting covid-19 related cases toward covid-19 is generally accepted way of counting. That's how flu deaths are counted. that should be the way to count covid-19 cases if we are to compare against flu
 
If you’re mad right now

1. You put all your eggs in one basket (lol)
2. Short sighted and thought you were going to get rich quick

Tesla is a highly volatile long term investment. If you weren’t crying about Elon musk, you would be crying about something else soon enough.

Somebody call Freud, it appears one of our members has lost their id and it is running wild in this thread under a new username.
 
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None of that is a reason to tank the SP with a tweet. That will only help the slimy roaches, click bait bastages and small-minded people you mentioned. It hurts his supporters.

Well the slimy bastages were and always will be after him...no tweet or lack of tweet will stop that.
And if you are a option trader or short term day trader...sure that hurt.

But if you a buy and hold person not so much. I am retiring in 3 month's so sure I would like the stock to be up.

However the long term mission is by far the most important. This is short term noise.

Is he right about how he is expressing his frustration....not for me to say.
 
Lots of emotions here just because Elon tweets something some don't understand?

Or is it that the SP is $75 down?

Thats all irrelevant and means nothing. Monday the SP may go up $75 again, so what ?!

Sorry but I don't get it because this we have since a long time and over time the company did better and better and the SP went up.

Never been more convinced about my investment and with more cash available today it would be a buy day for me.
 
I love this. People complaining about Elon when all he is doing is telling the truth.

If we don't get back to work, we're looking at a financial collapse. Even now, it may be too late. Tesla COULD go $100.

This is the first time many posters on this board are getting a real taste of the devastation that may come. Ten million out of work ... "you can't put a price on a human life!" Tesla shares down ... "Oh my God!!!" Elon had to punch people in the nose for them to understand how serious the situation is. I'm glad he did.

Just for clarification. I own a bunch of TSLA bought a little less than a year ago. ($250+/-) I was hoping to lighten up some in the next few days when my gains go long term. Still think it's a twenty bagger over the next decade. But hoping to buy back in at a much lower price after the waves of job losses and bankruptcies batter the market a little (or lot) more. So this pullback is costing me money.