Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[MikeAtkinson]

Gigafactory Berlin progress.

14th July, time lapse:

15th July, heavy rain from ground level:

 

[chrsk]

1445$, down 100$ in pre market

 

[saniflash]

1445$, down 100$ in pre market

more shares at bargain prices

 

[LN1_Casey]

more shares at bargain prices

Or maybe a good time to snag some options for next week.

 

[Carl Raymond]

So we need solutions for all applications

Solutions exist. What we need is a price on carbon so that those solutions are implemented.

As per Elon’s recent tweet, Jun 26:
Twitter

 

[vikings123]

1445$, down 100$ in pre market

Typical premarket panic from day traders who don’t understand the company.

This brilliant research piece based on accurate data and facts(yes sarcasm) might have something to do with the exaggerated drop premarket.

Tesla registrations in California nearly halve in second quarter: data

edit: Citigroup raises target price to 450 from 246.

 

[Jack6591]

I’ll be the stick in mud on this one.

CO2, primarily responsible for the enhanced greenhouse effect, is invisible. The additional CO2 already there will hang around for a century, continuing its planet warming effect. And unless other sources of CO2 emissions, such as concrete, steelmaking, shipping, agriculture are addressed (e.g. via a carbon tax), then our planet will not be healing. The situation will become more dire, the Keeling Curve will continue climbing, albeit at a slower rate than it would if ICE cars dominated.

What does it take for the coronavirus (or other major economic events) to affect global carbon dioxide readings?

Excerpted:

History has shown that carbon dioxide levels typically resume their climb quickly as normal economic activity rebounds. If there is any benefit of the coronavirus event in terms of slowing the pace of climate change, it could be the changing of people’s travel and work habits in ways that lead to sustained reductions in fossil fuel use. Only those kinds of long-term systemic reductions will change the trajectory of carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere, Keeling said.

 

[Jack6591]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

From the article:

“It’s one thing to bet on Elon Musk, but it’s another thing to bet against him,” Block said. “The guy specializes in pulling rabbits out of the hat.”

Carson Block

 

[Carl Raymond]

What does it take for the coronavirus (or other major economic events) to affect global carbon dioxide readings?

Excerpted:

History has shown that carbon dioxide levels typically resume their climb quickly as normal economic activity rebounds. If there is any benefit of the coronavirus event in terms of slowing the pace of climate change, it could be the changing of people’s travel and work habits in ways that lead to sustained reductions in fossil fuel use. Only those kinds of long-term systemic reductions will change the trajectory of carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere, Keeling said.

Sounds like Keeling was unable to conceive of a zero emissions economy. Some days, neither can I, with the obvious solution, a carbon tax, having been totally demonised and hopelessly misunderstood.

 

[Oil4AsphaultOnly]

Why would anyone want to take on the risk of having to remediate a dirty coal plant site. Far easier to go and buy a big piece if desert and build a solar farm there.

How about labor, access to water to pour the concrete, and access to power distribution lines to feed the power back into the grid? Cheap desert spaces generally don't have access to anything. Defunct coal power plants have towns around them. And selling the coal power plant for scrap value and filling the coal mines with dirt has a certain satisfaction to it.

 

[Todd Burch]

wow Frankfurt opening 1324 EUR is really low. $1509 only. I guess they are scared of the roller coaster price change in USA.
Meh.... whatever, it doesn't even have the minimum reference value.

EDIT: now it drops to 1312.20 EUR

Are you real or a bot programmed to broadcast fake worry all the time?

 

[replicant]

Sounds like Keeling was unable to conceive of a zero emissions economy. Some days, neither can I, with the obvious solution, a carbon tax, having been totally demonised and hopelessly misunderstood.

A carbon tax is certainly needed but it will be accepted only if it is fair.

If you tax working poors who try to go to work, while the super rich can continue traveling the world and live in huge mansions, you'll just get Gilets Jaunes making barricades and polarize the debate further.

I urge you to review the propositions made by 150 randomly-selected citizens, in an assembly created by the French President in response to the Gilets Jaunes movements: Citizens convention for ecological transition - Wikipedia
They did include some form of carbon taxes but their proposal is socially balanced and prove that people want to do what's necessary provided that the energy transition is socially acceptable. You can't rely on taxes to change the masses' behaviors if inequalities keep rising -- a carbon tax based on consumption weight more on a poor guy than on a rich person, even if the latter emit 100x more.

 

[Tslynk67]

Or maybe a good time to snag some options for next week.

You read my frikkkn’ mind!

i don’t care for buying weekly calls, but if the premiums drop over this then I might buy a few lottos

 

[LN1_Casey]

You read my frikkkn’ mind!

i don’t care for buying weekly calls, but if the premiums drop over this then I might buy a few lottos

I will live on vicariously through you then. Far too pricy for me.

 

[pyromatter]

Inside the Tesla Gigafactory | Super Factories

Only the first 10 mins are Tesla related

 

[Tslynk67]

I will live on vicariously through you then. Far too pricy for me.

Yeah, just looked, seriously, $13k for a 24/7 c1600

Might grab some more 2022 $3500’s though...

 

[Robertj]

Just listened to an interesting commentator on TSLA price action
The recent climatic move to $1,800 , and retracement

The comment was , look back at the 2013 run up , the first month was climatic,
it retraced , the ran for at least 3 more months

There are no guarantees, but sometimes action repeats

 

[Stretch2727]

Just listened to an interesting commentator on TSLA price action
The recent climatic move to $1,800 , and retracement

The comment was , look back at the 2013 run up , the first month was climatic,
it retraced , the ran for at least 3 more months

There are no guarantees, but sometimes action repeats

I think it mainly depends on next weeks earnings and outlook. Positive earnings and good cash flow will drive the stock forward especially with the S & P inclusion. If they can reaffirm 500K units this year it will really cement the belief that Tesla has not been effected by Covid-19 and is gaining share on the market.

 

[Nocturnal]

Typical premarket panic from day traders who don’t understand the company.

This brilliant research piece based on accurate data and facts(yes sarcasm) might have something to do with the exaggerated drop premarket.

Tesla registrations in California nearly halve in second quarter: data

edit: Citigroup raises target price to 450 from 246.

It's amazing that this same article is used every quarter. What's that? They sold more than they produced? OMG nun demand.

 

[S3XY]

It won't necessarily be a lawsuit, just rhetoric from competitors. Down the line if dominance and growth continue unabated, pressure from EU regulators is certain.

TSLAQ trash are no more than cartoons at this point. Besides, they would never admit Tesla was dominant enough to be able to compete unfairly because it would kill their raison d'être.

TSLAQ won't bring the lawsuit. It will be "concerned consumers".