What’s the point of constantly showing your allegiances to certain (mostly American) ideologies in the investor thread. What reward do you get from this and how do I get in on it.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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JRP3
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That a reflection of the current Veep
bkp_duke
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Commentary: I'm ready to trade in my electric car. Here's why
I love my electric car, but after more than three years I'm thinking of trading it in for a fossil-fueled model because even in California it's not easy being a green motorist.
www.latimes.com
Someone want to break it to her she bought the wrong EV?
No, you didn't imply that. Rather, I was (hopefully gently) disagreeing with "Starlink is largely unknown outside technically oriented audiences." That may be the case in most of New Zealand and an ad may appeal to those who are casually in the market for backup connectivity if nothing else.
But in some other parts of the world, Starlink is well known by average people and that's due to intense need/desire and word of mouth. For instance, you don't need to advertise Starlink in middle America. Instead, you have to beat customers away with a stick.
Regardless, we can probably agree that Starlink is a special case. There are very few businesses that have more or less evenly distributed capacity over the entire globe.
Maybe the five-year payback comment from the Industry Minister is regarding the $700m specifically or in tax collected through revenue on battery/vehicle sales or something along those lines
Source: Industry minister defends Canada's $13B Volkswagen battery plant subsidy plans
Aahhh I see yeah your quote there says it's equivalent to paying back the investment in less than five years.
bkp_duke
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Commentary: I'm ready to trade in my electric car. Here's why
I love my electric car, but after more than three years I'm thinking of trading it in for a fossil-fueled model because even in California it's not easy being a green motorist.
Someone want to break it to her she bought the wrong EV?
I did. I emailed her at [email protected] .
Such ignorance is an argument for educational advertising by Tesla.
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Words of HABIT
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Mariel Garza's opinion is based on her car, a 2020 Kia Niro with 230 miles range in ideal conditions. I agree that all BEVs except for Tesla using proprietary Tesla Superchargers are left wanting for long distance travelling. Tesla's decision to provide EV charging is a true masterstroke of genius.
Had you made this prediction five years ago you would have been put in a straitjacket and wheeled off to the asylum. Think about it: a young American EV brand vying for top spot against German cars, in Germany!
Elon predicted the German success many years ago, although he thought it would be with Model S.
Building a gigafactory in Germany was a brilliant move.
Counterpoint. I couldn't give two shits about what the stock price is today or tomorrow. Stock price often doesn't represent the actual company current and future worth, there's a very big speculation component as well.
Please explain how the current elon and twitter fiasco is a net gain for the future of the company. We're about to see if the theory of "all publicity is good publicity" is true or not.
philw1776
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You'd love the French Revolution. Mob rule. Rationality be dammed. Fortunately the Founders made the USA a Republic.
Just did a a 4400 mile road trip to starbase from Fremont. I have no real words to describe the joy this man (Elon) has brought to my life. Haters be damned.
I wish I had the time to expound on how SpaceX Tesla and Elon made a weeklong father/son road-trip so enjoyable. But; they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here’s 3000 words real quick.
Can confirm. The future is bright.
I wish I had the time to expound on how SpaceX Tesla and Elon made a weeklong father/son road-trip so enjoyable. But; they say a picture is worth a thousand words. Here’s 3000 words real quick.
Can confirm. The future is bright.
philw1776
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God bless.
Son in law brought youngest granddaughter to Hawthorne SpaceX factory where she saw women assembling Merlin engines. She's now about to be a Tufts engineering college Freshman student. I know it bothers the woke Elon Twitter haters here but deal with it.
Son in law brought youngest granddaughter to Hawthorne SpaceX factory where she saw women assembling Merlin engines. She's now about to be a Tufts engineering college Freshman student. I know it bothers the woke Elon Twitter haters here but deal with it.
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I see many expert opinions on Elon this weekend.
"these guys"? - do you refer to "these" as 'wink, wink' guys or which guys exactly?
So, historically, Maria Curie-Sklodowska, Einstein, Ulam, Fermi and others have suffered some sort of decline? Which decline is it? Can't be sexual as Elon is on like 10 kids and counting.
What does your research say? Please include all of the mentioned above as I'd love to update my notes.
navguy12
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My pre-amble to everyone I give “the nickel tour” of my May 2018 TM3 LR RWD (the latest being the one I gave to the B&B owner whilst on a mini holiday last week):
”This is an early build TM3. It has antique batteries, antique battery chemistry and an antique heating system compared to the current versions. Plus, it only has one motor. Tesla is able to keep everything fresh with constant software updates”.
And so on…
I also tell everyone I shall be holding onto this car for at least 10 years because I’m totally happy with it; it’s the first time in my life that I am happier with a commodity five years after purchase versus the day I took possession of it.
I just did.Commentary: I'm ready to trade in my electric car. Here's why
I love my electric car, but after more than three years I'm thinking of trading it in for a fossil-fueled model because even in California it's not easy being a green motorist.
Someone want to break it to her she bought the wrong EV?
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I just read your opinion piece detailing your frustration with your Kia Niro. I disagree with you on just about everything you wrote except one thing. You SHOULD get rid of that car... and buy a Tesla!
Where do I start? First, as a journalist, you have failed to be honest with your readers. While your experience may be true for you, the real truth is that 99% of what you're complaining about would go AWAY if you'd bought a Tesla.
You complain about a scarcity of chargers. Valid point... except for Tesla. There are over 25,000 Tesla Super Chargers worldwide... and they work! I just completed a 5,300 mile round trip from LA to Atlanta and every single Tesla charger along the way just worked. You mention that many chargers are not reliable. That's true... except for Tesla. Research this. There's plenty of You Tube videos out there documenting the reliability of the Tesla supercharging network. (Especially in freezing temperatures) You complain about "not enough range"? My Tesla Model S 100D has a 300+ mile range. That's enough range for a road trip or a week's worth of errands around town. I could go on and on, but I think you get my point.
You're entitled to your opinion, but by totally excluding the facts about Tesla, you have done a disservice to your readers. Your "truthiness" is so blatant, I have to ask, "What's your motivation?" . Why did you construct such a myopic hit piece on the viability of EV's? You seem to want government to take on the responsibility of making EVs convenient, yet you totally ignore the fact that TESLA has already DONE most everything you're asking for. Does the LA Times have an editorial policy that only negative Tesla stories are to be published? Sure seems like it. I thought you were better than that!
Please write an "updated" opinion piece acknowledging that while the future of EV ownership may present some challenges to early adopters, there are now millions of Tesla owners happily driving everywhere oil free!
Thank you.
Mark
PS: I've owned a Tesla since 2012. Now THAT's an early adopter!
navguy12
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Same here; realizing that my soon to arrive TM3 would work best with a smart phone was the sole reason for finally taking the plunge.
That was the spring of 2018…and it was a used (free) three year old iPhone.
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