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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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even when i got my MS in early 2017 there were still other Tesla owners waving and kids wanting to see the car... so it did last quite a while
Krugerrand
Meow
Without me having to research, are those tests comparable? As we know some of the NHTSA testing is not the same as the IIHS testing.
I visited my City's Transport Museum at the weekend with my daughter and the first thing you see when you enter is a Model S, then various older vehicles (ICE, Steam trains, horse carriages etc). On It's release it's the moment BEV's became desirable and the history books will note that when ICE becomes a thing of the past.
So they are touting "autonomy", yet they may have it cabled to a multi-rack computer...
Not quite an apples-to-apples comparison.
Or when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Your ChatGPT4 data is badly out of date. TSLA hasn't been at 1.71% weight in the S&P 500 since Jan 02, 2024 (first trading day of the year).
Here's yesterday's data (Tesla regained 10th place yesterday over JPMorgan Chase; both Broadcom and ELY LILLY passed TSLA in Q1).
S&P 500 Index - Top 11 Company weights in Rank Order:
Rank | Company: | Ticker: | Weight: |
1 | MICROSOFT CORP | MSFT | 7.10% |
2 | APPLE INC | AAPL | 6.21% |
3 | NVIDIA CORP | NVDA | 4.58% |
4 | AMAZON.COM INC | AMZN | 3.73% |
5 | ALPHABET INC CLASS A+C | GOOG+L | 3.53% |
6 | META PLATFORMS INC CLASS A | META | 2.51% |
7 | BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC CL B | BRK.B | 1.75% |
8 | ELI LILLY + CO | LLY | 1.44% |
9 | BROADCOM INC | AVGO | 1.35% |
10 | TESLA INC | TSLA | 1.29% |
11 | JPMORGAN CHASE + CO | JPM | 1.24% |
Cheers to the REALTIMERS!
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Ancient Nunavut (Canadian High Arctic) saying: "Only the lead dog gets a change of view".
Breakin' trail since 2002...
Cheers to the Pack Dawgz!
This isn't surprising. There was 0.0% chance Apple would build their own car. One less source of noise for Tesla
If they want an EV they should just buy Rivian. At it's current valuation Apple could easily pay for it with cash!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Yeah, that's a Tether which makes it easier to find the big parts after the H2 tank detonates...
(Figure.AI - data line? really? Never heard of wi-fi? Let's see it walk w/o that power cable!)
A project that's never been confirmed by Apple or its executives, has been declared dead, again, unconfirmed by said executives.
Enjoy this moment while it lasts. Tomorrow Pizza Hut is gonna join the race, according to people with knowledge of this matter.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
If they want an EV they should just buy Rivian. At it's current valuation Apple could easily pay for it with cash!
But Apple didn't want an EV; they wanted an Autonomous Vehicle (AV). They couldn't get the driving software to work. Here's but a small sample from my 'Greatest Promisses' list:
- Apple Targets Electric-Car Shipping Date for 2019 - WSJ
- Apple is targeting 2024 to begin car production: Report
- Kuo: Apple Car Still in Early Stages, Unlikely to Launch Until 2025-2027 at Earliest
- CNBC Now on Twitter: "BREAKING: Apple is close to finalizing a deal with Hyundai-Kia to manufacture an Apple branded autonomous electric vehicle at the Kia assembly plant in West Point, Georgia" / Twitter
- Apple Talks With Hyundai-Kia Paused: Report
- Hyundai, Kia Say Not in Car Development Talks With Apple
- Apple held talks with Nissan on autonomous car that have since ended | Seeking Alpha
- Apple Car production gets potential 2024 target amid talks with Toyota: report
- Loup TV 040: Apple Car 101 (2020-12-23)
- Apple Partnering With Tesla Is Just First Step, Says Ives (2020-12-24)
- Gene Munster on whether Apple is really making an autonomous car (2020-12-25)
- It's going to be Apple vs. Tesla: Gene Munster on EVs (2021-02-21)
- Tesla Stock Will Suffer From Apple Cars , Analyst Gives $150 PT (2021-10-17) <= interview w. Roth Capital Partners analyst and Pink Bunny Craig Irwin
- Apple is going to do a car and it's going to be a gamechanger, says Morgan Stanley's Adam Jonas (2022-07-14)
- Gene Munster
- Dan Ives
- Craig Irwin
- Adam Jonas
Decade-old Apple Car project may be completely dead
A report on Tuesday claims that Apple's long-running car project also known as "Project Titan" has been killed.
appleinsider.com
Cheers to the Longs!
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Margins.If they want an EV they should just buy Rivian. At it's current valuation Apple could easily pay for it with cash!
Tim and Apple live in a world of high margins, any product that lowers average profit margin is an issue. When Tesla started dropping prices, and CATL announced cheaper lithium cells, it affected the equation. The TV was a an example of why projects get cancelled, the M series chips are a positive example. At one point in early 2014, c level folks thought that their expertise in battery (laptops and phones) could be leveraged... this just after a $1B goofup on huge sapphire furnaces. Lots of arrogant thinking and poor vision despite the very talented engineers.
Blame or credit Elon, lower margins at Tesla has hurt the stock value but devastated the competition. RIP Apple Titan
Sorry, but Apple car is real and the day Apple car announced is the day Tesla goes under.
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