Musskiah
DisGruntled
Human attentiveness is paramount until L4 is proven outI don’t even know why effort is being put into this driver attentiveness stuff when robotaxis are right around the corner.
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Human attentiveness is paramount until L4 is proven outI don’t even know why effort is being put into this driver attentiveness stuff when robotaxis are right around the corner.
Which Chinese companies offer L2 self driving in all locations across China without limiting access to certian cities or road types?
XNGP is now available unlimitedly on all roads, everywhere in China.
All L2 systems are not equivalent.
Which part of that fact are you confused about?
XPeng has sold as many cars in China over its entire existence as Tesla sells in about 20 weeks in China. They will have to at least 10x their volume to be considered competitive. Judging by their growth YOY b/w 2022 and 2023, I think that's unlikely.XPeng, for one.
XPeng continues to challenge Tesla FSD with XNGP self-driving, now available throughout China
XPeng Motors announced a massive milestone for its XPeng navigation guided pilot (XNGP) ADAS feature that enables self-driving in several...electrek.co
I still remember when Elon was balking at the idea of using the cabin camera for eye tracking at all because it was inaccurate, and so the cabin camera was there to monitor Robotaxi users.Human attentiveness is paramount until L4 is proven out
I like that he changed his mind, as the most humble and intelligent humans are capable ofI still remember when Elon was balking at the idea of using the cabin camera for eye tracking at all because it was inaccurate, and so the cabin camera was there to monitor Robotaxi users.
Half of these requirements could be dropped if the camera was positioned in the driver’s line of sight, I think the other half could be dropped if they used a better camera.
XPeng has sold as many cars in China over its entire existence as Tesla sells in about 20 weeks in China. They will have to at least 10x their volume to be considered competitive. Judging by their growth YOY b/w 2022 and 2023, I think that's unlikely.
"No True Scotsman Fallacy " - thanks for the new term!
Hi there Norway, back at ya.Fragrance arrived in Norway today, I think BULLISH and may ignore any other data for a couple of weeks!
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XPeng, but the "go anywhere" version is very new and apparently uses heuristics. From everything I've read, it is not comparable to FSD V12.Which Chinese companies offer L2 self driving in all locations across China without limiting access to certian cities or road types?
The slaughtering refers to when the ccp officials start to divide up tesla assets using some bullshit enforcement actions.thats not really a "CCP" thing. Whatever you do, there is an Asian who can do it better than you. Asians, especially Chinese, are just very very good at copying and improving. The pace at which Tesla improves has to be faster than those who try to imitate it.
I have pointed out the difference to you already and now again to another poster.Your lack of ability to demonstrate any significant difference between the all-roads one Tesla is providing and the all-roads ones in China.
Like I said earlier- you're using the No True Scotsman Fallacy to defend an inaccurate claim.
Again.
I have pointed out the difference to you already and now again to another poster.
If you have evidence that XPeng's "go anywhere" software is comparable in performance to FSD 12, please post it.
From everything I've read, it is not comparable to FSD V12.
If that's your stance, then you would be overlooking the most important factor in improvement of autonomous vehicle software: Real world video data. It matters greatly when it comes to pace of innovation.The fact Toyota sells >5x as many cars as Tesla doesn't make THEIR ADAS system any less trash.... so you seem to be conflating two different subjects.
It is fair to be skeptical. We all know that no data is perfect, and presentation can always be bent to influence perception.Well, we already know from ex-Tesla engineers that they designed Autopilot to disengage one second before an anticipated crash, thus rendering a crash as "no on Autopilot."
Like many things Tesla, be skeptical of what they present at face value given their track record.
One has years of "go anywhere" experince and data, the other literally just got started.XPeng, but the "go anywhere" version is very new and apparently uses heuristics. From everything I've read, it is not comparable to FSD V12.
The fact it’s getting safer is important, although not surprising. But the constant, clickbait claim here and elsewhere is that it is safer than human drivers. The available data doesn’t show that.
@replicant Would you care to elaborare on your thumbs down (this ought to be good)?I know people (in particular some of my most dear feminist friends) who try to paint Elon as a misogynist. His selection of and long-term relationships with Denholm and Shotwell, in particular, are often one of the ways I counter them. They are truly remarkable women who young women everywhere ought to look up to. You go Robyn!!!! Tesla chair says life-changing wealth boosts her independence as she blasts judge's critique of 'lackadaisical' oversight of Elon Musk—'That is crap'
ha. right. 2023. losing my mind today! thanks. deleted my post.It is old news
So you read it already? It's just as impressive now as it was then, isn't it?It is old news