No. But the US government, told the prime minister of a long time ally that there was a special place in hell for him when he made a simple statement that Canada would not be pushed around by the US. Those are words a government reserves for an enemy nation. Clearly the American people for the most part support this. These actions need to be taken seriously and a sign of things to come. This all happened unbelievably fast and is a good lesson for Canadians that we can not trust in the least our neighbors to the south. I am glad to see the bipartisan support for trade missions to Mexico, Guatemala, Columbia, Chile, Argentina, Brazil and of course our allies in Europe and the commonwealth. The USA is a convenient and near by trade partner but should be looked at with caution, distrust and run by a government and people with no moral compass.
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Trade war and Tesla Canada Sales
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No. But the US government, told the prime minister of a long time ally that there was a special place in hell for him when he made a simple statement that Canada would not be pushed around by the US. Those are words a government reserves for an enemy nation. Clearly the American people for the most part support this. These actions need to be taken seriously and a sign of things to come. This all happened unbelievably fast and is a good lesson for Canadians that we can not trust in the least our neighbors to the south. I am glad to see the bipartisan support for trade missions to Mexico, Guatemala, Columbia, Chile, Argentina, Brazil and of course our allies in Europe and the commonwealth. The USA is a convenient and near by trade partner but should be looked at with caution, distrust and run by a government and people with no moral compass.
If China decides to play this debt, my guess is that instead of printing money Federal Reserve will just create a big number in the computer and transfer those zeroes to China. Here you go. It's dollar denominated.
"With Canada"? Are you serious? I don't believe there's a single person left in the world who has not been bullied and insulted by Trump based on their relation to one of countless social or political groups that Trump bashes several times a day en masse.
It's not just this time. George W. Bush benefited the same way, not so long ago.
You sound just like Putin's troll who's happy to sow the seeds of division and help Trump with that. And where is logic in endlessly equating from one post to a 100th Trump with "American people"? The logic is absent. Troll at its best.
Yah that doesn't cut it. This constant drawl of "the American government doesn't represent the American people" is not a defense. If that was the case you would simply initiate whatever mechanism your political system has to oust him and replace him. Every free nation has a form of that mechanism. There clearly is no interest in doing this. And if there is no mechanism then you live in a dictatorship, and I don't believe that to be the case. Calling it what it is doesn't make one a troll.
Struja
“Frost”
I think you are only about 50% correct. Having lived in NYC for 14 years and having an American wife and two American born kids, I can tell you *most* of my friends in NYC are appalled by this “treat your friends like enemies and enemies like friends” foreign policy. I would argue a majority of Americans understand that Canada, Britain, France = Friends and Russia, NK and Saudi Arabia = Foes.
Unfortunately, I think we Canadians will have to cross our fingers, plug our noses and wait for 2020. I’m sure if he loses the election this will simply go down as the great election mistake.
Do I owe you something? A revolution, maybe? I voted against Trump(not so much for Clinton) and will do so again.
Mueller does what he can in accordance with the law. If there is no evidence to impeach, then he stays the term. If majority of people decide after that that the sum of achievements outweighs the collateral damage, then maybe there is a chance for a 2nd term, after all it is very rare in American history that a president did not stay for 2 terms. If Trump decides he wants to stay for a 3rd term like Putin, I surely will be protesting.
Owe me something? Revolution? No sir. I speak with great frustration from the point of view of a soldier that served alongside of Americans for many years only to see our formerly trusted neighbour follow the lead of a racist, sexist, leader with no moral compass who has determined that my country is now the enemy of the American people and that "there is a special place in hell for the prime minister". Would you react any different if a best friend turned on you? Our views are not isolated. Everybody we associate with through work and family have the same sentiments. The whole thing is a bloody tragedy but its probably a good wake up call for Canadians to see what our "neighbours" are really made of.
I don't believe for a minute that the majority of Americans don't support him. If they didn't, whatever non confidence mechanism the American system has would have been initiated by now.
Lets start by saying that I have no means to verify the authenticity of such statements(which you duplicated all over the forum). But I do know for a fact that Putin's trolls infest pretty much all English speaking forums, so it would not be a surprise if we got ourselves one right here, on the Tesla forum. And they lie their asses off, whether about serving or selling their souls to devil.
who is following the lead aside from Republican majority in the congress that got elected prior to Trump? Maybe majority of Americans, myself included? I am definitely not following Trump's lead.
Someone likes to generalize, doesn't he? Everybody is Trump's enemy. But not of the American people.
Trump is your best friend? I'm sorry for you, he's definitely not a friend of mine.
And again "everybody". If you repeat a lie a hundred times, people will believe it. After all, it's an age of Trump's fake news and Putin trolls' propaganda.
Majority did not vote for him. As far as your mechanisms, please send them directly to Mueller, don't be shy.
Based on the summary and tone of your statements, I still do not believe you served alongside Americans, but rather serve alongside these individuals
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/world/europe/russia-troll-factory.html
Yah no. I have been a member of this forum for a while. My posts are not in any way trollish in nature. My wife and I both served in the Canadian Air Force and routinely worked with US Air force technicians. Your links are insulting. Don't bother replying, you are on my ignore list.
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In American politics, it is not unusual for a POTUS to have less than a 40% approval rating while in office. It fluctuates. "Majority" approval ratings happen but are rare. Trump is currently at about 42%. Our last POTUS was 48% average. The highest in modern history was actually a terrible President. He had a whopping 70% average approval, but he:
- Started the US involvement in the Vietnam War.
- Planned a sneak attack on another country which failed, and left a mess for 50 years. He caused the whole problem with Cuba, and effectively forced them to align with the USSR, and even snubbed their new leader deliberately by dodging a peace meeting with him.
- Nearly started a thermonuclear war with the only other superpower on earth because he was immature politically and could not untangle a mess he started, nor did he understand military tactics and technology at a high enough level.
- Was heavily into nepotism and privilege by birth. His father was Nazi supporter and a professional criminal at one point. He was the closest America ever came to having a King, and our first fully pre-packaged and sanitized POTUS. This monarchy is still alive even today.
- He did more to accelerate the Cold War than any other President, even though he was not in office long.
Only 3 Presidents in modern times did not have lower than 40% during their tenure.
Kennedy - Worthless as a leader. A menace to world peace without a clue as to how to deal with people.
Eisenhower - A brilliant organizer and leader.
FDR - A socialist who wanted to dissolve the Supreme Court, hated Negroes (historical) and endorsed segregation in all forms, put his own people in concentration camps without due process, and wanted to be leader for life. He admired Stalin as a leader, and had no problem with the fact Stalin was on the Axis side of WWII until he was attacked by his ally.
So the two out of three of the most popular Presidents were not fit for office.
Canuck
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I wonder why Canadians don't just do a little of bit research before they post nonsense such as this. Clearly, most Americans don't support Trump -- just going by the election results:
So how can a Canadian possibly say most American's clearly support his conduct on trade with Canada? It just makes no sense at all when we look at the facts. Please learn about the electoral college vs. popular vote if you want to know what most Americans support because it's not this President based on "most Americans".
Plus, this trade war and tariffs, especially on Canada, doesn't even sit well with many Republicans who voted for Trump. It's really anti-Republican at core -- which usually means less government intervention on trade and tariffs. So now we've even taken away from those who voted for him with regard to this issue -- yet you blame most Americans "clearly"? Why, when the facts clearly say otherwise?
Americans are my friends -- and right now I have sympathy for them and what is happening and I sure wouldn't kick them while they down, as many here seem to want to do. I am confident what is going on will be righted -- but it may take some time -- and the judges appointed will remain long after Trump is gone, which really is tragic, especially at the Supreme Court level, as we saw with yesterday's decision on voting rights. The mid-terms and Mueller offer hope, but in the meantime, I'm standing by the American people, my friends, and I look forward to buying more US made Teslas for years to come.
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You're on my ignore list as well. If you're not a troll you behave like one for sure. Bragging about military service all over definitely is an honorable act.
And for others' FYI- poster joined forum in 2017 while NYT article is dated 2015 (that's about "I've been around long time")
These guys build some credibility first on unrelated topics, then start inflammatory rhetoric.
The goals are to sow division, so there's no unity when international community needs to impose sanctions on Putin(where is right or wrong? Everybody can be right). And to turn every discussion into a pile of dirt, so nobody wants to read it and believe any opinions.
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so i'm not allowed to disagree with your point of view? Quit your bitching. I read your comments and didn't agree with it, get over it.
I'm pretty sure the Provincial Liberals accomplished that all on their own. If we somehow avoid going into a recession we owe it all to the greatness of Doug Ford. Excuse me, that last sentence made me throw up in my mouth. So, my other point is that politicians change. Some may be better, more often worse, But, at the end of the day they are all a bunch of hypocritical, conceited jerks. The change they want is the one(s) in your pocket.
Dr. J
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Dr. J
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We elected the person who took the most amount of money from Russia.
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