dandurston
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There are 3 comments and 1 is pro EV. That's a pretty sample size to declare a winner.
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There are 3 comments and 1 is pro EV. That's a pretty sample size to declare a winner.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
So many important reasons to NOT do parachute delivery:
- Tesla is NOT going to adopt any Soviet-era tech
- NATO countries use LAPES (Low-altitude Parachute Extraction System)
- LAPES kills air-crew at a fixed rate (see vid below)
- its now restricted to emergency/wartime operations due to high risk
- LAPSE implies air-cargo, when sea-lift is the way to move large tonnages
- Tanks/AFVs can survive a LAPES drop (acceptable combat losses)
- Civilian electronics/flammable lithium batteries will NOT survive a drop
- lithium electrolytes in that quantity would be a massive fire risk
- risks include total loss of the Aircraft and crew
- no civil Insurance Underwriter would EVER carry this policy
sub
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The game I had been playing before going alll in with my remaining cash after the go private tweet was to wait until I felt the stock had been beaten down some first. I would then sell a leap ATM put, giving myself margin of error on time and price. If I was wrong on time and stock continued to move down, I would wait and buy a leap call, same expiration. This would give me a synthetic stock position. My goal with these plays was to safely swing trade TSLA and pick up a few shares at a time. Was working great until the “Tweet!”
EVNow
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Yes, the latter. You are getting it wrong. Its a HUGE deal.
Dems taking over the house - that's the expectation - will completely stop Trump's domestic legislative agenda. He will still have more leeway in foreign affairs (that's why when you look from outside US, Presidents matter most).
More over - since the house will have a lot of investigation powers, it is likely to completely tie up Trump administration - which seems to be extremely corrupt. They can also investigate a lot of stuff Trump did before 2016 - which can really be problematic for Trump. All this could make him more dangerous internationally as he may want to distract voters here by starting a war.
Every American should have to watch Wag the Dog.
Tesla's doing around 1% better than NASDA-Q.
That's the sort of stuff we want to see, even when the stock is down.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Yes. I should note, this risk is for 2020 October, rather than near term.
Or it could be just a bizarre show - like the one Trump is trying by portraying asylum seekers as invaders from the south to influence the elections next week.
dandurston
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I sold my last remaining J19 $390 LEAP and put the money back into stock. I'm optimistic about the stock direction over the coming weeks, but it's getting too close to J19 to make holding this much more than a lotto ticket.
I was glad to see the price rebound to a slight profit after being deeply negative a few weeks ago, but I would have been much better off selling it months ago around the time of the Q2 ER. I actually had my finger on the button to sell it ~3 months ago at the time of the "funding secured" fiasco. It was worth $26 then (versus $14 today). What prevented me from selling was Elon's tweet that the $420 buyout was "certain except for the shareholder vote". I figured there was a high probably it would be worth $30 shortly - which obviously didn't pan out - and even if the vote was no it was worth almost that before these tweets, so the short term downside seemed limited. Of course I didn't anticipate the fallout after these tweets.
The point of all this is to say that while I don't know what the SEC is doing with the $40 million collected, I hope they are distributing more widely than just the short sellers. Quite a few folks on here with deeply OTM LEAPS lost a lot of money selling in the aftermath of the tweet when the price of LEAPS above $420 crashed and then they sold, which was the forum consensus move at the time. Further, the share price move downwards after things unravelled was larger than the short lived move upwards, so on the net I think longs were more negatively affected. I'm not hoping for any money here and my share would be a penny anyways, but I hope the SEC isn't just handling this from a short seller perspective.
I was glad to see the price rebound to a slight profit after being deeply negative a few weeks ago, but I would have been much better off selling it months ago around the time of the Q2 ER. I actually had my finger on the button to sell it ~3 months ago at the time of the "funding secured" fiasco. It was worth $26 then (versus $14 today). What prevented me from selling was Elon's tweet that the $420 buyout was "certain except for the shareholder vote". I figured there was a high probably it would be worth $30 shortly - which obviously didn't pan out - and even if the vote was no it was worth almost that before these tweets, so the short term downside seemed limited. Of course I didn't anticipate the fallout after these tweets.
The point of all this is to say that while I don't know what the SEC is doing with the $40 million collected, I hope they are distributing more widely than just the short sellers. Quite a few folks on here with deeply OTM LEAPS lost a lot of money selling in the aftermath of the tweet when the price of LEAPS above $420 crashed and then they sold, which was the forum consensus move at the time. Further, the share price move downwards after things unravelled was larger than the short lived move upwards, so on the net I think longs were more negatively affected. I'm not hoping for any money here and my share would be a penny anyways, but I hope the SEC isn't just handling this from a short seller perspective.
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Lucky_Man
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Just thinking of the military applications for somewhat-movable storage. Another market?
Is all this because of AAPL? I have to admit that I never understood how a single stock can "pull down others". Why would that be the case? Surely those bailing out of Apple right now should be re-investing elsewhere...
Stock market is weird!
Stock market is weird!
bhtooefr
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Pulling down others would happen through margin calls, no? Basically, if someone gets margin called because of a stock falling, they may have to sell other stocks to satisfy the margin call.
shlokavica22
Member
That's a very good point. If you received a margin call while you are long AAPL and short TSLA at the same time, the smart choice is to close the TSLA's position.
ev-enthusiast
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I like the one hour chartTesla's doing around 1% better than NASDA-Q.
bhtooefr
Active Member
Or if you're long AAPL and long TSLA, but leveraged - a margin call on AAPL may require you to sell some TSLA to satisfy the margin call.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
"Billion here, billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money!"
-- Everett Dirksen
AAPL Mkt Cap: 997.09B
- down a further $10B since after-hrs dive yesterday
TSLA? It's GREEN
$344.88 +0.60 13:35 EDT
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