UP Front Sway Bar Endlink Rubbing

[Bigtuna00]

Creating a new thread so we can stop hijacking everyone else's threads

The Unplugged Performance front way bar, in the recommended "soft" setting, causes the sway bar end link to rub on the lower control arm, as seen here on my 2019 Model 3 Performance:



Also reported by @webbah here Sway Bars, End Links, and Rear Control Arms Installation & Impression

So far UP says they haven't seen the issue: Sway Bars, End Links, and Rear Control Arms Installation & Impression

I've contacted them via email, will see what they say.

 

[jmarcos]

Mine rubs as well - would moving the the mountings brackets forward help (I think there is some room), or is it just the drill hole that matters here?
(already had the issue of the totally wrong torque specs documentation, now this!!)

 

[webbah]

Mine rubs as well - would moving the the mountings brackets forward help (I think there is some room), or is it just the drill hole that matters here?
(already had the issue of the totally wrong torque specs documentation, now this!!)

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Yes, I would move it to the medium setting in the front. We need to hear back from @UnpluggedP on this and hopefully how they will rectify the issue (replace front sways looks like only option for a permanent fix). I’ve attached my photo of the issue here as well for consistency although it is already linked above to the other thread.

 

[MasterC17]

You may also consider Whiteline Adjustable End Links. I put those in and haven't had an issue.

 

[webbah]

You may also consider Whiteline Adjustable End Links. I put those in and haven't had an issue.

@beastmode13 installed these and did have the issue, FYI

 

[jmarcos]

SPL also has front adjustable end links. They look nice.

 

[Bigtuna00]

Technically, he had a different issue (sway bar itself rubbing). But in theory one could solve it by making the link longer or shorter so that the bar doesn't interfere. Personally I'd rather have a product that fits properly

@beastmode13 installed these and did have the issue, FYI

 

[Bigtuna00]

Are the front sway bar mounts are slotted? I can't remember from my install (I know the UP rear ones are). The point being, if we could slide the bar forward a bit it would help. Looking at the install instructions I can't tell.

EDIT: looks like they are not http://assets.superstreetonline.com/uploads/sites/5/2019/10/Tesla-Model-3-Performance-Eibach-Front-Sway-Bar-Installed.jpg (also not how much more clearance the Eibach bar has...if it existed )

 

[jmarcos]

I am pretty sure there is a bit of slop on the front mounts, that’s why I mentioned it. I’ll try on the weekend, although I hate having to remove the cover to get to them.
The rear mounts have a lot, I just centered them.

 

[Bigtuna00]

Agree there's always some slop but they're not a slotted design like the rears, that's what I meant.

 

[jmarcos]

I just checked and there’s barely +/- 1mm of play. So for sure not slotted!
I’m going to put back the stock front bar back and set the rear to the lowest setting. Doing some rough calculations yesterday the ratio looked similar or at least not too far off from the UP front low/rear medium.

 

[Bigtuna00]

No reply from UP so far, FYI. It may help if other folks contact them as well so they know it's not an isolated incident...

 

[jmarcos]

They never replied after I left them a message via their website that their wrong torque settings caused my rear end link to snap. I’m not going to waste more time with them or their products.

 

[TexasTeslaRacing]

It’s and miss with UP customer service. Most of the time I can’t talk to anyone over the phone and emails take days to get an answer.

 

[webbah]

I’m officially done with @UnpluggedP. I have their coilovers and sways and have had issues with both and contacting them and getting any response is almost always futile. I finally sorted the coilovers but once MPP is homologated in Switzerland I will sell and dump the UPs. Also likely to remove the sways soon.

 

[webbah]

So tomorrow I have an appointment with Tesla and they agreed to remove the front UP Sway and put back the OEM Performance sway. I will leave the UP Rear sway for now. I’m pretty stoked they agreed to do this as typically they won’t touch any aftermarket stuff. I have a good relationship with them and this probably went a long way.

 

[jmarcos]

@webbah - nice! I left my rears in the medium setting, it seemed pretty good around the neighborhood, maybe more playful.
And if it oversteers at the track it's very easy to change the setting.

 

[webbah]

@webbah - nice! I left my rears in the medium setting, it seemed pretty good around the neighborhood, maybe more playful.
And if it oversteers at the track it's very easy to change the setting.

Yeah, I think I will leave it on medium in the rear for now too. Using soft in the front and medium in the rear seemed to help with understeer last time I was at the track. I’ll need to see how that works with the stock P3D front sway but I think it will be similar.

 

[Bigtuna00]

I received my replacement bar this week, installed today. The bar is shorter so it won't rub, but since the tubing diameter is the same (31.8mm), the rates will be lower. Not sure if UP already adjusted the website to reflect this or not. It should still be stiffer than stock on the softest setting, just not quite as much as before. Old bar is on the left, new bar on the right.

 

[rotus8]

Bar will be stiffer at the "soft" setting.