When will privately owned Tesla Robotaxis be operating on HW3 or lower?

[Dewg]

Too scared or too lazy?

Are those the only two options? I'm sure you can come up with others. Think hard, and use your imagination - I have faith in you.

 

[QUBO]

As a happy user of AP1 and sceptic of (current) FSD, I found the below recent video compelling. Both going from/to the same location. Waymo using Lidar and HD maps avoids the highway. FSD does well on the highway but would get stuck behind trucks blocking a lane and take forever to get back on track. Overall, both were impressive. OTOH some of the videos shared on this thread, such as starting to weave into a head on collision, are discouraging.

Comparing Waymo and Tesla Full Self-Driving Beta 11.4.3 in San Francisco

 

[spacecoin]

As a happy user of AP1 and sceptic of (current) FSD, I found the below recent video compelling. Both going from/to the same location. Waymo using Lidar and HD maps avoids the highway. FSD does well on the highway but would get stuck behind trucks blocking a lane and take forever to get back on track. Overall, both were impressive. OTOH some of the videos shared on this thread, such as starting to weave into a head on collision, are discouraging.

Comparing Waymo and Tesla Full Self-Driving Beta 11.4.3 in San Francisco

Doing it once and doing it 100 000 times between failures is the main difference at this point.

 

[hooty]

Since this is your originated suggestion as to why, then which camp do you put yourself in?

I already got Tesla to refund my FSD payment
So as for the rest, too scared - a sort of Stockholm Syndrome if you will

 

[hooty]

Are those the only two options? I'm sure you can come up with others. Think hard, and use your imagination - I have faith in you.

Cognitive dissonance would only suggest others

 

[hooty]

Doing it once and doing it 100 000 times between failures is the main difference at this point.

Echo chambers are awesome reality distortion fields!!

 

[JulienW]

I already got Tesla to refund my FSD payment
So as for the rest, too scared - a sort of Stockholm Syndrome if you will

You are projecting your limited understanding of people's reasons and wants since I bought FSD and am overall satisfied. I would NOT take a refund if offered and prefer to keep my FSD Beta experience. I find it an intriguing, rewarding, execrating, sometimes frustrating and look forward to each drive. It is somewhat like a video game experience and it is WELL worth the cost for me.

EDIT: I have 0 interest in having a robotaxi and would NEVER allow that anyway. I never expected more that a L3 system at the best and if we get there I will be trickled pink. Even if it stays L2 and continues to improve I will also be satisfied. It is getting so close, especially in suburb and highway driving that disengagement are becoming rare. I drove from the middle of Atlanta Saturday to a running trail 30 miles out of the city. I went all the way out and all the way back (almost 60 miles) with only one disengagement and if I had been patient it would have likely worked it out.

 

[hooty]

You are projecting your limited understanding of people's reasons and wants since I bought FSD and am overall satisfied. I would NOT take a refund if offered and prefer to keep my FSD Beta experience. I find it an intriguing, rewarding, execrating, sometimes frustrating and look forward to each drive. It is somewhat like a video game experience and it is WELL worth the cost for me.

???
The implication of instigating legal action is due to not being satisfied with what you paid for.
Ugh.

 

[Dewg]

I value honesty & holding people to account. Maybe that's the difference between you & me

I see what you did there. You are suggesting that anyone that disagrees with you values dishonesty and is apathetic. I tip my hat to you, sir. Well played.