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Who pays Supercharging electricity?

hiroshiy

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Just out of curiosity. In Japan Tesla opened the last SC in last March and nothing since then. Total of only six SCs. I'm wondering whether Tesla pays for land lease and electricity. Apparently if Tesla pays both, it should be easy even here to open new SCs I guess.

I once heard somewhere that Tesla lease the land for free. That is understandable. How about electricity cost?
 

MikeC

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Just out of curiosity. In Japan Tesla opened the last SC in last March and nothing since then. Total of only six SCs. I'm wondering whether Tesla pays for land lease and electricity. Apparently if Tesla pays both, it should be easy even here to open new SCs I guess.

I once heard somewhere that Tesla lease the land for free. That is understandable. How about electricity cost?

Tesla pays for the electricity. It's reported as an "immaterial" amount in their financial disclosures. I think the cost for leasing of the spaces varies depending on what they negotiate.
 

Nigel Tufnel

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I've heard that "high-end' retail outlets in California are willing to negotiate sweetheart deals in order to attract Tesla drivers/customers. They don't realize we spent all our money on our cars.

:wink:
 

hiroshiy

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Tesla pays for the electricity. It's reported as an "immaterial" amount in their financial disclosures. I think the cost for leasing of the spaces varies depending on what they negotiate.

Thanks Mike! Relieved to hear that. Maybe in Japan land leasing is too expensive. However, Japan is expensive and Tesla need to understand that...
 

hiroshiy

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I've heard that "high-end' retail outlets in California are willing to negotiate sweetheart deals in order to attract Tesla drivers/customers. They don't realize we spent all our money on our cars.

:wink:

The problem here is Chicken and Egg (sort of). Only a few hundred Teslas and a few, inconvenient Superchargers won't convince retailers, let alone highway plazas, one of which attracts 30 thousand visitors a DAY already.
 

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