Why didn't Tesla offer a non-stagger wheel option for the MYP?

[dino007]

Honest to god i thought the staggered set up was mainly for RWD vehicles to grip and put power down easier

Or just for the looks like the MYP since its AWD etc.

Yea i personally fall in the category changed the tires to 20in squared cause
A. Uberturbines are heavy af 21s
B. Im not ****ing around with tire replacements early and no rotations

So i feel the OP slight frustrations

I suppose an option would be nice from factory

 

[Spivas]

Buy two OEM front wheels and tires from Tesla and install them on the back, keep the new rear wheel/tires for when you sell the car. Problem solved.

We decided not to wait for Juniper. We're getting ours next week and your idea is how we're going to proceed so thanks for recommending it. Yes it's extra money but it's the fastest solution and guarantees everything is new versus possible issues with someone else's tires and rims.

 

[Spivas]

Actually, how many miles could I get on those tires with normal rotations? Would stepping down to 19s and normal sidewalls yield more miles?

 

[QtownTaxiGreg]

Actually, how many miles could I get on those tires with normal rotations? Would stepping down to 19s and normal sidewalls yield more miles?

What are the OE tyres? They seem to vary quite a lot.

I think the biggest contribution to wear is your right foot. Next your propensity for throwing it around corners. Not hitting kerbs and wacking your alignment helps.

40k miles seems pretty normal for sedate driving on nice smooth roads.

 

[Spivas]

What are the OE tyres? They seem to vary quite a lot.

I think the biggest contribution to wear is your right foot. Next your propensity for throwing it around corners. Not hitting kerbs and wacking your alignment helps.

40k miles seems pretty normal for sedate driving on nice smooth roads.

I'm at half-life on my M3LR OE tires with 19,300 driven so I'm fairly sedated for a Tesla owner.

 

[stopcrazypp]

Honest to god i thought the staggered set up was mainly for RWD vehicles to grip and put power down easier

Or just for the looks like the MYP since its AWD etc.

It still helps with AWD cars because when you accelerate the rear tires are the ones that are loaded the most. I remember at a certain point, the acceleration of a car is limited by the tire traction, so I imagine that is where the staggered setup helps (to be clear it's not the staggering, but rather the rears being wider; a similar thing can happen with a square setup but typically the front has lower limits due to the need keep a margin to allow clearance for steering).

Yea i personally fall in the category changed the tires to 20in squared cause
A. Uberturbines are heavy af 21s
B. Im not ****ing around with tire replacements early and no rotations

So i feel the OP slight frustrations

I suppose an option would be nice from factory

I think they don't give the option to downgrade because that puts less money in their pocket while increasing variation (which costs Tesla money). They offer the other way around (option LR to performance wheels) because people pay extra to do so.

 

[alain99]

Actually, how many miles could I get on those tires with normal rotations? Would stepping down to 19s and normal sidewalls yield more miles?

The actual mileage is more a question of treadwear rating and to extend the wear evenly you rotate frequently to maximize your tires.

I don't know what the treadwear rating on the different tires is but if you have a 21" tire with say 500 and a 19" tire with 250 the 21" will last twice as long as the 19" ones.

 

[Daekwan]

That's really all they are anyway. You're splitting hairs to get at the differences which would be largely unnoticed in the real world during day to day use.

Yep.

The 3 basic things that sold me on the original 2021 RWD Standard Range Model Y for $39,990 instead of the more expensive versions were:

1) How often do you need to accelerate faster than 0-60 in 5.3 seconds?
2) How often do you need to drive more than 200 miles in a single day?
3) How often do you need AWD?

Since the answer to all 3 was basically somewhere between very rarely & never.. I bought the car and never looked back. Did entertain the idea of trading in my 2021 MYSR RWD for a newer MYP.. but the numbers just never made sense. Fast forward 3 years later and with the way all these cars have basically depreciated to hell.. Im so glad I didn't spend $60,000 to $70,000 on MYP a few years ago.

What's really crazy is that at anyway I could actually sell my 2021 MYSR and purchased a used 2021 MYP for almost the same price. They are both can be found for about $30K used.

 

[Spivas]

Buy two OEM front wheels and tires from Tesla and install them on the back, keep the new rear wheel/tires for when you sell the car. Problem solved.

So would the rears off the Performance work up front or are they too wide and cause turning issues? My son may be getting a Performance as well and we could just swap backs for fronts on one of them.

 

[Boedha-Online]

in my post #15 you can see 10.5's on the front and also 9.5's on the rear so they fit with no issue

 

[455dan]

I apologize if this question has been asked before, but I'm wondering why Tesla doesn't offer a non-staggered wheel/tire set for the Model Y Performance. I understand that "Performance" to them means better grip and cornering, but what about people like me who just want the power of the Model Y Performance for regular city and highway driving? I simply want the features of an SUV with more power than my M3LR.

Personally, I utilize my car's power while driving at higher speeds and rarely from a complete stop, unless I need to overtake someone before a lane merge. Therefore, I don't require different width tires and thinner sidewalls, and it seems like I'm not the only one. Sure, I could opt for the Model Y Long Range and then pay an additional $2000 for the Acceleration Boost, but I'm not a fan of the 19'' Gemini Wheels and I don't want to spend another $2000 for the 20'' Induction Wheels. The Long Range also lacks a carbon fiber tail, sits higher, and has the same power with AB as my M3LR. I want the Performance version, but I don't want to deal with the shorter tread life and extra cost associated with that specific tire style and size.

For people like me who prefer a squared setup, why isn't the option available when ordering? Many individuals on various forums who have made the switch claim that nothing else is affected. If it's a speed rating issue that Tesla doesn't support, aren't there "normal" tires out there with the appropriate load indexes and speed ratings? If not, then I can understand why Tesla doesn't offer it.

It's just such a waste of time and money to have to purchase a third-party set of "normal" tires and rims, pay to have everything switched over, and then deal with selling the brand new 21'' Uberturbine set that people are now hesitant to pay full price for. This means even more money out of my pocket, especially since TSportline charges $3,700 for their cheapest TSV 19'' Induction tire package set.

Wouldn't it be more logical if Tesla could simply provide two rim options for different drivers?

Agreed, I bought the Performance model and am not crazy about the 21" ubers. Switched to 18" staggered set up and unless you are really pushing traction limits the only differences are a better ride quality, better on center feel, less Watt Hour use and the reduced possibility of flats or damaged rims on our pot hole roads..

I do not care for these ultra low profile tires. Indy cars pull over 2.2 Gs lateral and while yes they are special compound yada yada, have a look at the wheel size 15 inch and the side wall aspect ratio. actually have a relatively tall side wall- not poor riding rubber band style.

• Front
  305/45-R15 (10.0/25.8-R15) in size, with a maximum diameter of 26 inches and a minimum diameter of 25 inches at 35 psi
• Rear
  415/40-R15 (14.5/28.0-R15) in size, with a maximum diameter of 27.5 inches and a minimum diameter of 26.5 inches at 35 psi
• The ultra Low profile tires large hoops may be a young person popular Style thing that sells cars?
• I do like the Looks of a staggered set up though makes any car look more muscular.
• For winter I run studded snow tires in a square set up 255/55-18
• jmo YMMV