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  1. J

    Used market has really taken a hit [All discussion of Model 3 Resale value]

    The other aspect is used vehicles always will drop most in the fall as they essentially become another model year older as 2023's start to roll out. But most of the reason right now is as others have said, just market corrections.
  2. J

    Has Tesla Build quality improved on new Model 3s in 2022?

    I disagree that the Model 3 AWD is equivalent to a $30K car (or should be priced as such). The average price of new vehicles has risen substantially over the last 10 years. My sister has a Kia Optima that had an MSRP around $30K and there's nothing I would take from the Kia over what Tesla...
  3. J

    Cannot figure out how to install Basenor Model 3 Mud Flaps (2022 Model)

    I installed the Tesbros version of the mud flaps yesterday and the pins required a lot of force to secure. You'll want to make sure the mudflap is pushed all the way up against the fender liner as well, otherwise the clips will have a hard time engaging.
  4. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Same for me, except I was only given one day to schedule as opposed to multiple. I was given 4 time choices. Doesn't matter, as I can schedule around it, but I thought 1 day only was not really accommodating. I'm hoping to be able to pick it up earlier anyway, but if not, the appointment I...
  5. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    A few updates came today: M3LR White/White no FSD Order date 1/18 Orig EDD: March EDD#1(1/19): 2/12-3/12 EDD#2 (2/13): 2/26-3/26 EDD#3 (2/24): 3/9-3/19 Vin assigned 2/24 196xxx EDD#4 (2/24): 3/9-3/13 So in the last few hours I've went from a month long window to assigned a VIN & 4 day window...
  6. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Personally, seeing the stream of impatient buyers place their order and given an estimated delivery month, only to then freak out weekly in this thread leading up to the original month estimated, and in most cases, actually receive the car within that month is becoming very amusing to me. It...
  7. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I'm just speculating, but I haven't seen many orders with white interiors receiving vins in the past week or so. Could be nothing to it, just something I've noticed.
  8. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    In case you weren't aware, there is a tracker already set up in this thread that you can sort/filter to look at different combinations and when VINs are being assigned in this thread, might save you from duplicating the same effort: Wiki - Model 3 Order Tracking Spreadsheet Teslike Model 3...
  9. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Just curious, what was your EDD showing before you received your VIN?
  10. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    That may be the case for updating the EDD range, but VIN assignments are not always at set specific times. I received one in the middle of the day on a previous order.
  11. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I've had better luck talking to someone at my local delivery center, although I do think depending on call volume sometimes those get re-routed to a generic tesla support number.
  12. J

    Phantom Braking

    I think what is lacking is a simple no-frills cruise control. On all the vehicles I've driven that have adaptive cruise or traffic assist systems, they also have the good old fashioned maintain speed you set cruise control as an option as well. Is this not something offered by Tesla?
  13. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Congrats - seems like the original date of February when you placed your order was pretty accurate after all.
  14. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I think at this point there's probably no need to confirm the new chip / battery if your last six of the vin is starting above 161xxx.
  15. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I was about to suggest this as well. Assuming the monthly price remains the same, you'd need to own the car for 5 years before you'd break even (not even considering what you could do with the 12K in that time period). Plus, the FSD stays with the car if you sell it and it may not help your...
  16. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I don't think that piece is relevant. I show the same thing on mine, I interpreted it as some version control note in the HTML code for internal purposes, and nothing related to the vehicle config.
  17. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Regarding the 30% federal tax credit for ev charging installation / equipment, I like to go to the internal revenue code instead of the form instructions, as the form instructions don't always align with the current tax law. From I.R.C. Sec 30C: (g) Termination This section shall not apply to...
  18. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I was speculating on this a few pages back but there's really just no way of knowing how many intel atom cars are still needing to be assigned or delivered. Although I'd have to think the overall vin rejection rate is lower than what appears on these forums since often the enthusiasts gather...
  19. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Both were 154xxx. The second one was actually a lower # than the first, I assume the second had already been released by someone else beforehand.
  20. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Yes, released vin 1/13, received 2nd vin 1/18. Was informed my order would be cancelled if I didn't accept the 2nd vin, although someone in the performance waiting room said they were able to release a second vin and received the ryzen on their third. I wasn't as lucky, and had to cancel /...
  21. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    For me it was 5 days. There was no change to the EDD at all, then a second vin was almost immediately assigned (also had intel atom chip) on day 5. I've heard between 3-5 days is normal for it to update after releasing a vin.
  22. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    What did the estimated delivery say when you placed the order? It looks to me like most people are receiving theirs either within that month or before depending on the config.
  23. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I saw a couple posts on Facebook where people had taken delivery of a white interior M3 with the AMD chip yesterday. Looked like they were performance models. Sure seems like everything being built in the last few days has the updates though.
  24. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Would also like to know your color build config. With a 163xxx it should have the li-ion battery & ryzen MCU.
  25. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    The only things I've ordered thus far are the nema 14/50 adapter and tuxmat floor mats since those seemed to be out of stock for a while and I definitely wanted them. I'm probably going to go with a cheaper set of mats for the trunk / frunk as well as a carbon rear spoiler similar to the...
  26. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Has anyone received a 161xxx or 162xxx Vin with a white interior yet? So far I think I've only seen black interiors but I am not certain.
  27. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    The question nobody seems to know at this point is how many more unassigned / undelivered intel atom M3LR's are out there and is everything being produced today switched over to the AMD chips? I would think they will cycle through them all eventually, but whether that takes 2 weeks or 2 months...
  28. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I received my second Vin in the middle of the day last week. I do think it is most common that the EDD updates overnight though. My first VIN appeared that way.
  29. J

    Model 3 Performance Waiting Room

    Wow, that's pretty fortunate. I was told my order would automatically be cancelled if I rejected the second vin, and that is presumably the norm.
  30. J

    Model Year 2022 Refresh M3/MY

    To me, since the price is the same either way, I'd prefer to get one with the lithium ion battery & newer of the old chips. I don't care if it's only barely faster. Now, if there was a $1500 price difference, that's a different story. If at the end of the day it only saves me not having to...
  31. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I wouldn't count on that necessarily. The current federal plug-in electric tax credit is still in effect, and while the version that passed the house repealed this as of 12/31/2021, there's no guarantee that they won't shift the date to the day the bill passes. I think back to the TCJA of 2017...
  32. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Yes. The next steps are usually you'll get a text message asking if you are trading in a vehicle (even though you've probably already indicated that in the pre-delivery tasks). After that, the next communication will be when a VIN is assigned, you'll be asked to accept the vision agreement...
  33. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I disagree - I think it depends on configuration and location. My EDD from original order date in November was February 2022. I even placed a hold on it until Jan 1 (as did a lot of October / November orders). I still have received a vin and scheduled delivery date by the end of January which...
  34. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Well after releasing a vin last Thrusday, I've been assigned another Vin today (this one even earlier in the sequence than the one I released Thursday). Of course still has Intel Atom chip. Need to decide if I should just accept delivery of this one or cancel and re-order. I'm ok with waiting...
  35. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Unfortunately it looks like based on recent deliveries only the Model Y's are getting the ryzen chip and LI battery thus far. Hope that changes soon.
  36. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I don't know exactly what he was looking at. I just started the conversation by mentioning I was assigned a VIN overnight and I was interested if it had the lithium ion 12v battery and/or the updated MCU and he said he could tell on his end it did not have either. He mentioned there is no...
  37. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Not necessarily. I just got off the phone with my delivery center and unmatched from mine that had vin 154XXX and they confirmed it had the lead-acid battery & intel atom processor.
  38. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Ordered 11/20 M3LR White ext, White Int, 18" aero, no FSD Original EDD: February 2022 Updated EDD 12/7: December 21 2021 - Hold placed 12/07 Hold Removed 1/1 Updated EDD 1/2: March 5-31 2022 Updated EDD 1/6: January 21-Feb 4 2022 Vin Received 1/13: F154XXX Updated EDD 1/26-1/30
  39. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Out of curiosity - what is the EDD of the new order?
  40. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Some folks were saying that generally the day the VIN gets assigned aligns with the build date. I don't know if that's accurate or not, but that's what I was basing my comment on.
  41. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Anyone receiving a Vin with a build date of 1/11/22 or later able to confirm whether they have the atom chip or the newer one yet? I'll be fairly surprised if that 1/11 date ends up being accurate.. Also would be thrilled if it were the case since I haven't received a VIN yet.
  42. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Because Tesla allows it? The delivery dates are all over the place, and Tesla only gives you a 3 day window to accept delivery. After some people wait for months, that 3 day window may not work for everyone who has already waited for months. Put it this way, if you wait for months and...
  43. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    How does the process work if you want to reject a car upon delivery? Do you just go back into the order queue or are you required to accept delivery of the next VIN they assign to you? Anyone have any insight?
  44. J

    Pic of your Model 3.......RIGHT NOW! [model 3 pictures thread]

    I think those are actually wheel covers for the Aero wheels. Notice that the center cap is sunken in and doesn't sit flush? I think Mayde used to offer them in Chrome, this is probably them.
  45. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I get what you are saying, but right now nobody knows what % of new model 3's are actually being equipped with the Ryzen chip. For all we know, it could be 5% of new deliveries, and may not be 100% until June / July. There's no guarantee that the vin after next will have those items.
  46. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Ordered 11/20 M3LR White ext, White Int, 18" aero, no FSD Original EDD: February 2022 Updated EDD: December 21 2021 Hold placed 12/07 Hold Removed 1/1 Updated EDD 1/2: March 5-31 2022 Updated EDD 1/6: January 21-Feb 4 2022
  47. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I don't put too much stock in what the initial EDD shows right after taking the hold off. After all, my original EDD when I ordered back in November was February 2022 and then a week later moved all the way up to December 2021. I'm fine with waiting until March anyway, but I expect that date...
  48. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    My thoughts are that internally Tesla has a vin match date that may not be the same as the order hold lift date. There are folks (I'm one of them) who have had the hold lifted but aren't eligible to have a vin matched to their order until 1/1 or 1/2.
  49. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    I'd just wait till you get back, and if they try to get a hold of you, tell them you thought the order was on hold until 12/31. The EDD change is probably just them prioritizing people on hold in their system, or something to that effect. I wouldn't think too much of it.
  50. J

    Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

    Some states charge personal property tax on vehicles owned on 1/1 for that tax year. That's the main reason I'm waiting until 1/2. On a $50k car, it would be about a $1700 bill due at the end of the year. Might as well kick that down the road another year if I can help it.