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I originally said the "first" packet till I realized that the entire software package was "the thing shipping" vs. the first bit that hits the wire. If I make a ship out of legos and throw one piece of it overboard, has it left the dock? That said, if we go first packet and Baker island...

CDN seed sits in a quonset hut on Baker Island. 8 hours to go. Not shipped until the last packet leaves that server. The satellite uplink is roughly 10kbits.

Not in this case. In this case I was having a software issue and had rebooted both screens. That said, I don't think all of the updates use the timed reboot mechanism.

And, to make this more fun, today the AP was pretty much back in line with the norm again (perhaps better). Same commute every day with AP on.

<Ignore if you hate idle speculation> The other day after a reboot/restart I noticed significant changes in AP behavior. Frequent prompts to hold the wheel as well as a good bit of wandering. Idle speculation is that machine learning is an amazing thing but each car has individual...

Do you have a tablet or similar that is relatively light on apps? You can try pairing with your S and see if it stays connected. The S is a closed system so the odds of a bug that is just impacting you for bluetooth are pretty rare when compared to the odds of a more open Android based...

Works better for me with the patch. Much much better.

Question: Does your nexus work with other bluetooth devices? The more other devices it works with the more likely the problem is your S.

Really good thread to have today. I could swear the connectivity issues have been resolved with a patch just a few hours ago. Please check the Android play store and make sure you have the latest bits. Would be good to know if I am just having a temporarily wonderful experience.

One of the more annoying problems with the app has been having to routinely open, close, then open again before the app would start showing you car data. After today's update I have opened and closed numerous times but each time it works flawlessly. Are you seeing the same thing? Go to your...

Several reports indicate the truck driver saw the Tesla and thought it was okay to proceed. Some of the confusing discussion included comments that the car was moving from lane to lane. Some reasons the car might do those things while on AP would be driver initiation, hills/dips, poor lane...

I see in thread a few comments about a hill? Google Maps does not indicate anything more than, perhaps, a modest downhill with very clear line of sight for truck driver and Tesla driver. Here are a couple images to make the point a bit more clear. Gas pumps add some perspective...

Cross your fingers. Reading this thread and the source article indicate we may see some headway. Very exciting! Firmware 8.0

And, in the interest of always seeing the other side. Check the following video. Apparently, and unsafely, you can treat your Model S like a boat. Elon Musk says the Tesla Model S 'floats well enough to turn into a boat'

Yes, numerous trips through the same dip indicate no improvement. A confounding factor was that I had a version update during testing. The odds are relatively high that what I was observing was the use of the car in front of me as a factor in lane keeping. FWIW, my car was in for...

Need to take this road a few more times to be sure but my observation (and I think I saw another post mentioning this) is that the hill handling behavior has improved. Previously autopilot would struggle with sharp decline followed by sharp incline. Seemingly it would perceive the hills as...

Quick shout out to Tesla. After the latest firmware upgrade the doors now open automatically after it finishes it's sequence! Nicely done and much improved. When combined with the double tap of the stalk for parking the ease of use has gone up dramatically. Oh, the kind of fun downside to...

Have not looked recently but I vaguely recall that changing your password will force an access token change. Simple thing you can do, for now, is change your password. If I get some time I will test to be sure that it actually forces a token change. Oh, and obviously you should stop using...

System updated. I was on LTE at the time. That said, I am pretty sure the bulk of the download was on wifi last night. It probably takes a good bit of time to unpack and install. <idle speculation/>

I just use iperf to stress things so I can see what they look like under duress :-). Regarding the blue-arrows. You know, I would swear that all sorts of stuff keeps changing on the car (with or without updates). It makes life interesting but sometimes confusing. It definitely causes...

That is the company that built the wifi chipset. Now if someone can figure out APT-X on that I would be a happy camper.

Hey, that is really cool. Thanks Ingineer. I don't see the partial command in there :-/. If it is a bunch of small files then it is probably okay without partial. It will be interesting to see if I get a resume or a brand new download. It will be blindingly obvious if the download is...

They appear to be using a pretty vanilla openvpn and I can see it as a pretty active set of sessions over UDP. This is definitely port 22 for a big download to the car. It could be "a" VPN but not what I typically experience as "the" VPN for Tesla. I use nfsen as the collector. There are...

I am running netflow. I was trying to figure out why my garage was pushing more traffic than usual this evening. I found that there is a lot of action on port 22 from an amazon compute instance. For the life of me I don't know why they would be pushing a map update through an ssh port but...

Everything working since about an hour ago. I did not touch anything. Had an interesting experience right before it broke where I caught a large download over port 22 followed by some messages that I had an upgrade available. Walked out to the car to do the upgrade and the message...

Slacker is broken for me but only in a very particular way. Search and menus do not work. However, favorites do work. My guess is something changed on the menuing and lookup between Slacker and Tesla.

No offense taken! Personally, I am just going to stay on my plodding methodical path for a while till I see some objective data that indicates success in a timeframe that I think is reasonable :smile:. Of course my idea of reasonable timeframe is a bit different than others. I believe there...

Supratachophobia had some contacts he was exercising. Not sure where he is at with that. Personally, I am not too worried about establishing explicit contact nor have I spent any time worrying about it. If we keep thoughtfully building up features/bugs that are important to the community I...

Totally get where you are coming from BertL. This seems like it is falling on deaf ears and there is a distinct possibility it is. I don't want to make excuses for Tesla but I do think it is important to acknowledge that the development process can be quite lengthy. We gave our collected...

Enough said. It is here in all it's glory.

Yay! I just downloaded and it's release notes say it was updated for summon capability. Will try and give it a shot. Anyone else have it/tried it?

I think I have a better understanding of what is going on. Have not really experimented as I am pretty busy this week. If I am wrong I know many will be glad to point out what I missed. I am not proud.:smile: I am very impatient. The car, eventually, presents the handles or at least...

I am standing next to the car with fob in hand. I have autopresent handles enabled. A rational default would be to, at least, open at a touch. At best, once it stops present handles again.

MSNOW, KORT677, and Korben all have seen this behavior. Not yet spent time to characterize. Anyone else seeing it?

Amazing what you have done mapping this out Ingineer. Reading back through your posts is an absolute torrent of detail.

I have the same problem. Looking at this.... Cortina 03-747RBC Polyethylene Portable Delineator Post with 10 lbs Recycled Rubber Base, 49 Scientific As an option

I cannot attest to encryption. I can say it was delivered over port 80 from Akamai though.

California Model S updating now. 125MB file in the initial download. It seems clear that they waited for wifi as it kicked off the second my car got onto it's AP. For the record it was not delivered over VPN. It was delivered via Akamai. My bet is that there are not as many different...

It is expensive to maintain multiple code branches. Nowadays the push is always forward. The apps on your phone are a good example. FWIW, the OS in the car probably is not changing much at all.

I have been logging flows coming from the car and I see hits to Akamai. Most mature public SW deployment/update uses a CDN. As an example, Microsoft patches an absolutely amazing number of computers on the 2nd Tuesday of each month. There should be essentially "zero" bandwidth limitation...

Interesting. It was out of commission for several hours for me. I have to look through my logs but I am relatively sure it came back due to my rebooting the car vs. anything else. Not sure what the backend looks like over there but it is entirely plausible that there are several service...

Must just be me. The car and I both have Internet connectivity. Off to the traces to figure out why I am so lucky :-).

I see no connection to the application gateway through VZW or Comcast. The Tesla Android app and my scripts are seeing the same issue FWICT.

Samsung Gear VR 2015 Edition - Newegg.com They still seem to have them. It took a couple days but it is plausible by Christmas if you hurry!

This is pretty fun. Just bought a samsung gear VR and one of the experiences they offer is a Model S. The app is called "RelayCars."

We started shortly after 7.0 release (23rd of October). Not too shabby for an adhoc attempt. I would not get too stressed about 7.1. It would be pretty amazing to see more of these requests get into 7.2 (especially if it moves with the same velocity as 7.1 appears to be moving). We are...

Hello all, I wanted to quickly point out the post on medium.com with the next wave of analysis. Caveats abound but I can say it was a lot of fun. I encourage you to do your own analysis and thinking on the results. If you want the data please feel free to download. Medium Post Hidden...

Hello all, I wanted to quickly point out the post on medium.com with the next wave of analysis. Caveats abound but I can say it was a lot of fun. I encourage you to do your own analysis and thinking on the results. If you want the data please feel free to download. Medium Post Hidden...

Getting there. Slow going for a variety of reasons. Mainly because my time away from day job is scarce. That said, a couple things I am working on. 1. A new medium post "hidden gems" where some digging through the data reveals things that we want at a meta level. 2. Cleaning up the data...

What I saw them check for the pre-tensioner For those who asked. I should first note that this is just a recollection of a very brief conversation. This should not substitute for Tesla or their agents doing your check. The first picture below is of the pre-tensioner. Just pull your seat all...