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    Having second thoughts on picking up MYP

    HW4 likely has great camera and functions like TACC will work better over time. I doubt HW4 arrives anytime soon for 3/Y. Tesla likely has their hands full with HW4 in S/X/CT
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    Pricing

    Randy is tired of your nonsense. Clean it up.
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    Let's talk CT wiper......

    The eccentric motion doesn't work starting from the horizontal. The blade must travel horizontally, or otherwise something super funky is being implemented.
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    Let's talk CT wiper......

    I like it. No subtlety for the Cybertruck. Tesla has had a hell of a lot of time to get this wiper right. I will be surprised if its a big issue with owners.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I though the Berlin 4680 equipment was being moved to the U.S.?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That's not an explanation South America of handling the total volume Tesla sold worldwide in 2020. Its a bit of googling
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    That's a good point. And another reason that the Mexico City location was refused. Austin will continue to expand vehicle production. The more manpower intensive parts manufacturer can be done at Monterey. Musk probably wanted to follow that path in China too. Limiting expansion is probably...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You are a very special internet person. Now explain how a continent that buys four million new cars a year at an average ASP under $25K can absorb the output of the new factory. A super duper man of the world should be able to spot a deception designed to avoid Osborning 3/Y sales in the U.S...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    self hypnosis plus that CT is not referred to as next gen but as I said, the order page still says exoskeleton, so there is hope the order page also says six seats I prefer my CT be exoskeleton with thick stainless steel But I don't care enough to cancel based it being a more conventional...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, 65% compared to a 50% average IIRC. Historical data. What else was there to buy? A Bolt? Tesla is the only volume EV producer and most people have a great experience. But how many times am I rebuying a model Y? I do have a CT preorder, which I may take if it has a 400+ mile option and...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It's the desire for something new. According to S&P GM research Tesla owners who rebuy the brand do so in less than three years on average, which is by far an industry low. Tesla buyers are the last group buying vehicles intending to drive a million miles. They want the latest and greatest...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I can buy a new 3 and Y this week in Chicago. That not infinite demand. It's a nice balance between production and current demand. But 20 million cars with 10 models. Apparently no problemo. South America can absorb 18 million. The model 3 is a great car, especially at the after tax credit...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The wealthy aren't buying a cheap Tesla. The subject at hand is south america absorbing the output of the new factory. Tesla is lying about the target market to not Osborne the 3/Y. The 3 is already manufactured in surplus even with the $7500 tax credit.
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    Poor Model Y Tesla Vison Experience

    Does radar still work on cars with the device?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The gen 3 has to be separated in price from the model 3. The Y and 3 are currently in supply/demand balance in the U.S. The only way the next gen can sell more cars is to be significantly under $35K. Tesla is selling about 40K vehicles/month in the U.S. The market is no longer supply...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not the same, that's why must keeps talking about haerdness. But I've convinced myself that there is no exoskeleton, so not the 3mm first talked about either.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Ah, the racist ploy of a skilled debater I've been to most south american countries. You haven't, but perhaps you have been to the Bahamas. The per capita income in the Bahamas is double that of the wealthiest countries in South America. Tesla undoubtedly has a South America plan, but its not...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Peanuts. The estimated value of my worldwide Star Trek transporter network is $17 Trillion.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    An analogy compares two items. You chose to compare a small wealthy archipelago to a largely poor and unstable continent. Tesla first sold 500K vehicles in 2020. The Tesla infrastructure and demand present in North America and Europe in 2020 is what it took to sell half a million cars. When...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think you guys are just mad that Troy pointed out Elon's lie about eliminating the ultrasonic sensors. Although I don't think it was cost cutting, but rather supply.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Backup could possibly be designed in the motor. Plus each ebrake can be independent. From a clean sheet perspective hydraulic brakes would probably look less safe compared to an EV with ebrakes. But we know in reality that hydraulic is very safe. "Fail On" is also a possibility with ebrakes...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why am I not just buying a model 3? We know the current demand for Tesla in major markets by price point. In the U.S. supply and demand are currently in balance. Demand at $25K may be 4X $35K. But the $25K vehicle needs to sell at $25K
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You may notice that New Zealand and Hawaii have characteristics not present in South America. Count the superchargers and service centers needed to support sales. Tesla will obviously expand into south america at some point. But they don't do that by building a factory thousands of miles away...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How will Tesla proceed if China does not let them build a less expensive car? I think a factory in eastern Europe. Slovakia builds some of the Land Rover models we get in the U.S. If they can't build in China for the EU then a lower income EU member is perhaps the best choice. Is Troy required...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The entire latin american new car market is 4 million cars. Troy is likely correct. The typical retail car buyer is truly affluent and wants an American SUV. How does Tesla profitably sell a small margin car over a vast geographic area and provide charging and service? Troy's opinion is as good...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, and do you build a factory at Monterey to put all your cars on a ship? Maybe, but that doesn't feel right. I think its more likely that the new model is for central and north america. Tesla continues to expand charging and service infrastructure south. I would be interested in the total...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Where was a Mexican labor rate quoted?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    plus Tesla has the cash to keep building out capacity during a recession. Any company that can keep building will increase relative advantage against to those that must cut back.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I have a smart engineering acquaintance who says Cybertruck is not going to be exoskeleton. What are the implications if true ? I say little because no one seems to care at the apparent failure of the structural pack in the Austin Y.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well, NE Illinois and Texas does. Any place with high renewables will have times of low prices. Plus many people with home solar have low costs. California, after enough solar is installed, will have low prices when it is sunny and not too hot.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I pay about 2 cents a mile for a Model Y. 3 cents for an R1T. I don't care about the difference. Even inefficient EVs are very efficient at reasonable electricity cost. Tesla advantage in this area is using fewer cells so better margins.
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    Has the M3P ruined me?

    Can't beat the C8 corvette for value and speed like the M3P
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    I can calculate the list price of the new Tesla "Model 2" will be around $26,000 -- here's why

    I'm calculating that it needs to cost about the same as a nice $25K Toyota Corolla. It also needs to be as desirable as the Corolla.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It's happening. Mexico is lower cost and more skilled blue collar..
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    has this been posted? https://www.whitecase.com/insight-alert/mexico-nationalizes-lithium-sets-state-owned-company
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    A glance at history will show you that large traditional auto makers know how to scale
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    lots of people in Monterey who would like a $10/hour job
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The land around the factory just became much more valuable. No reason to not buy the largest contiguous piece available.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Why isn't next gen being built in China? Also, I think the report that next gen is not for North America is wrong.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The inverter for the house is in the powerwall. The car is just supplying 400V DC.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Can Tesla buy a lithium mine in a stable country? Or would that mine be considered a strategic asset? I doubt BYD can buy a mineral mine in North America, but I'm not sure. Also, an existing mine would have contracts that likely don't go away. It would really take game theory and a deep...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Controlling labor expense is far more critical than reducing factory space. That's why the original high density plan shown for Giga nevada never happened. Factory buildings are not expensive and the yearly depreciation that is expensed against each vehicle is almost trivial. Labor availability...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You don't bet the farm on one customer. During the ramp of the model 3 Musk criticized Panasonic for not more aggressively ramping battery investment. But Panasonic execs made growth decisions based on what was good for their company and their personal financial well being. A typical supplier...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How did "Tesla f*cked Up"? The points Sasha makes have been obvious for several years. Tesla scouring the world for the stuff they need has also been happening since 2015. There are many aspects of Tesla's business that they don't control. Hence Part 1 of the presentation.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Tesla can't source enough inputs to rapidly build new factories. Musk points this out repeatedly in various was. Tesla is rate limited by the stuff they need arriving at the loading dock.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    How did he miss lower labor costs, which is the primary reason?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Everyone has to track the doors now. The issue isn't paint, it's what replaces the welds. The attachment process changes radically.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The mission is best served by V2G. The vast resources put into seldom used personal vehicles is locked away without at least demand respense.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It depends where you live. Wind and nuclear usually have lowest prices overnight.