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One of my three cars got it yesterday. This is the first time all three didn’t get the update at the same time.

We have 4 (truck doesn’t work yet) but all three of the model s and x vehicles drive differently on FSD, two of them have the same hardware (HW4) and exhibit different issues in different places. Since v12 I’ve often wondered if the training videos coming from all different models is...

I guess I don’t understand the hate with price drops. If I wanted to make money on a purchase, I’d invest my money instead. It didn’t buy a car to make money, I bought it to get me around and have fun while I do it. I look at depreciating assets as paying what I could afford and I thought worth...

In the release notes it looks like it just adds support for legacy vehicles. Didn’t look like they changed anything, although some say curb visualizations are larger, but it still drives close to them. Who knows with the mystery that is release notes. I don’t notice any difference yet on my...

"The female person to whom I am related by marriage" is the most interesting description of a person I've seen in a while. Can't tell if wife or sister-in-law

Looks like quite a few are getting it!

Looks like more than just employees.

Here’s a new one. Both Hw4 model s vehicles drive differently than our Hw4 model x. There are 2 stop signs in my town that the x actually rolls through while both s vehicles stop. And there is another that it stops at and goes out immediately every time, where both s’s stutter pulling out every...

When we purchased our x the same thing happened. We requested service and a mobile tech came out and fixed it and now it wipes across. It was a quick fix and I imagine if you put a service request in, they will adjust it for you.

12.3.3 definitely has a rain issue for me. Swerving in and out of clearly malarkey lanes and way to close to the side of the road driving through standing puddles causing FSD to swerve unpredictably. 7 disengagements on a 5 mile drive. Much different than my usual 0 lately.

You scroll the right wheel, if you want to switch sides, you scroll up past the last space and it will start over on the opposite side. The video I posted a few pages back shows it, it’s about 16:23 in.

You can put up a picture of you holding the wheel, it works, no joke. Have a passenger take a picture of the screen while you’re in service mode and have the cabin camera on with you holding the wheel. Then you can tape it to the roof of the car and use the service mode in cabin camera to place...

Here’s a close look at the visualizations, the median it went straight for seems to pop in after it passes.

Ran my normal test route at night last night, and 12.3.3 fixed a bunch of hiccups from 12.3.2.1, but nighttime driving brought a new challenge for vision only, it almost ran into a median, twice, I didn’t see any visualization for it either. Edit:upon closer inspection, it looks like it popped...

Or a couple of packs of underwear and new rims. 😂

12.3.3 fixed almost everything except no turn on red, stop except right turn, my fork in the road that no version ever got right, and for the first time ever from my experiences, almost ran into a median twice (the same one)

I thought I saw a little bit of buzz about eyes only and don’t have to have your hands on the wheel at all. I know that I’m able to put my hands near the wheel and get no nags, but it was almost like I was tricking the camera into thinking, my hands were on the wheel. I think I saw a couple...

It’s so odd I get all my different vehicle updates at the same time when others don’t. We’re having holiday party so two of the cars are blocked in, but I managed to get the X out to the edge of the driveway and connect it to a hotspot, I’ll take it for a spin and see what’s changed.

You son of a gun @FSDtester#1 ! I kept looking from the app to see no update and you motivated me to go out and try to pull it. Lo and behold on all three vehicles.

Are both the same hardware version? Edit: looks like they have to be hw3 so I have no idea. Everything I thought is wrong.

After this brief discussion, I’m thinking maybe it’s eligible car based? For instance, if I had a hardware 3 and a 4, the 3 would have gotten todays 12.3.3 first, when it was all 3s, then when a hw4 rollout started, I would have gotten it sometime after. Just a thought.

All three of my cars have FSD and all three have gotten every update at the exact same time. All hardware 4, one model x and 2 model s. Maybe it’s an eligible car thing. Perhaps If I had a hardware 3, the result would be different, but since all are hw4 with fsd, when one is eligible, they all...

It has to be owner, not vin based, all of my vehicles get the update at the exact same moment.

Seems to be HW3 only also. Wonder if they’ll be a HW4 push later tonight or a point-point release for 4. Edit: HW4 wave just started.

For me, proper speed on secondary roads, better lane choices, and a solid first attempt at vision only auto park are what I’ve seen. It’s definitely focusing more on the eyes and head than hands on the wheel now.

I’d imagine they are working diligently to get it to everyone and are probably anxious for people to try it. This is the first version they can legitimately be proud of.

12.3.2.1 fixed almost every issue on my test route. Forks are still an issue, and it must really be paying attention to where I’m looking since I got a strike for checking cross traffic when it thinks I’m looking at a mounted camera. Auto park works pretty well also.

12.3.2.1 fixed almost every issue I had. So close. Forks in the road are still it’s Achilles heel.

Here’s a video of the way the front and side cameras look on hardware 4

If you are on hardware 4 you can just touch the wheel, no need to apply torque, the cameras can see you’re holding the wheel.

Wonder if they are leaving us 12.3 peeps on to collect data on when we use the accelerator to speed it up. It would explain the 75gb of data that is uploaded every day I take a drive.

I feel like since I’ve had FSD from the beginning, heck I had AP1 also, that I’m safer because I’m not complacent. I’m constantly expecting it to run me off the road so I’m extra vigilant. Even now with almost all drives having No disengagements I’m paying more attention than I would if I was...

Got home late today and in the last hour had one heck of a download and upload on my car. Currently 12.3, HW4

Thank you, I can’t believe there’s no option to move this and high fidelity park assist to the main display, where it can manipulated in a useful way.

Good gravy, can we just get an option to put this and high fidelity park assist on the main display….

I can’t wait to see his they implement tap to park on the model s/x.

It also doesn’t respect when I press the turn signal button every time. I’ve tried pressing the turn signal to get into the necessary lane to turn ahead of time and the car will often ignore it and turn the signal off. Crazy.

Thank you, here’s something interesting I wonder if anyone else is seeing. In past versions, what I assume was map updates, I would get different behaviors suddenly after experiencing the same mistakes over and over, then one day it would be corrected without an installed update. I made a video...

Does v12 use anything from versions prior or were all those years a waste of time software wise?

100% agree. High fidelity park assist would be so much better on the center display, also. One would think “tap to park” would have to be on the center display, unless they had some weird scroll wheel implementation to select.

Version 12 fixes this. It has happened to me through every version of 11. The behavior is no longer present in 12, even though the highway stack is still based on 11.

Is the new autopark included? The new videos of it out there look promising! No more 3 point turn to park, it just pulls right in! I know it’s on the new 2024 build but Park assist for hardware 4 was in a later build and it made its way to one of the earlier FSD beta tracks before the software...

Wonder if this will be part of 12.3.1? (New park assist) https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/s/84pVySMEme

I would imagine the way the cybertruck live view looks is the way that it would look but it’s surprisingly difficult to find a picture or video of fir how the live camera view in the app looks on it.

Don’t all the dots correspond to cameras? The front dot is the windshield standard camera and the one in the vehicle is the in cabin camera.

Very interesting, wonder if the pattern of updates is going to change now with v12 where they can continue to push all the way to next release. Super cool that you got it, still waiting here.

I’m talking about the FHA standards that dictate the duration based on the posted speed limit and percentage grade approaching the light. There is a minimum that is supposed to be mandated for them based on those parameters. If it was coded for that, there’s a legal leg to stand on since those...

Under the assumption it’s always level 2. At some point as the technology progresses, if end to end is what ultimately allows for the advancement, it would have to be an issue. No matter how many lines of code are eliminated, there would have to be some hard coded rules, although I find it hard...

Would the NHTSA allow such a set of arbitrary actions? Yellow light duration has a standard programmed into them that correlates with the speed limit on any given road. Much like stopping at the stop sign “line” even if the car has to creep and stop again due to obstruction maintains compliance...

One would think if it was coded in they would code the standard for the speed limit dictating the time the light stays yellow, but if it's just fed videos, who knows if it will ever draw a conclusion on how long the yellow signal will be and just stops when it sees yellow.