Haha, that's because Waymo sees losing multiple billions a year a threat. Tesla is the last thing they are worried about.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd hard and late braking fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
I hear AARP is recommending FSDS equipped Tesla's. Their marketing slogan is DIY or at least take a few innocent bystanders trying.
KArnold
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Or the new feature specific to Model Y - Full Self Driving Model Y ACTUALLY Seriously Supervised.How is that different from Seriously Supervised?
Or for short, FSD MY ASS.
Daniel in SD
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Zero chance NHTSA allows that. If anything there will be more supervision of the safety driver as the system improves. That’s what happened at other self-driving car companies.
I'm assuming you're referring to the current FSD implementation not what Elon is announcing on August 8th?
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Correct. I am referring to the reports by users about their V12 experience.
EDIT: If Tesla does reveal a dedicated robotaxi vehicle on 8/8, my guess is Waymo will ignore it. Waymo tends to focus much more on their own efforts rather than reacting to what others do. Waymo does not even respond to Cruise news and Cruise is a direct competitor. When asked about the Cruise incidents and getting shut down, Dolgov deflected and refused to answer.
PianoAl
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Yes. Now is the time to start designing roads and signs that work best with self-driving cars. Sure, we currently have to work with what we've got, but smarter standards will help.
For example, I think just slapping TRUCK above a speed limit sign should not be allowed, and my Tesla can't understand it.
Had my second drive on V12.3.4 coming from V11. I am not that impressed. Yes, it is better than V11 but marginally so. It still has some slight phantom braking, I still have to use the accelerator to help it move. It still does some odd lane choises and it doesn’t use indicators entering and exiting roundabouts at all.
However, I can understand that if you use the trial and never experienced FSD before that you will be flabbergasted. For me, however, coming from V11 = not so much.
However, I can understand that if you use the trial and never experienced FSD before that you will be flabbergasted. For me, however, coming from V11 = not so much.
It might be a tad easier to update a database that the autonomous cars have access to.
It is my hope that, in years to come, we can melt down all the road signs, traffic lights and so on. Remove the lane markers. Let the cars sort it out among themselves using whatever rules of the road they consider best.
I feel like it used to over use turn signals at roundabouts and now it barely uses them at all(much like real humans).
Roundabout performance is night and day vs v11. I tried it under heavy traffic and it has been perfect vs before it would hesitate, slam on the brakes, ping pong speed around and I had to press the accelerator through the entire thing. Today it has been absolutely perfect(single lane roundabouts from my experience).
That’s a strange road to be sure. Seems like a recent road diet? Just fill it in with some grass or something already.
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I can't tell if he's kidding or not.
fasteddie7
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In the release notes it looks like it just adds support for legacy vehicles. Didn’t look like they changed anything, although some say curb visualizations are larger, but it still drives close to them. Who knows with the mystery that is release notes. I don’t notice any difference yet on my normal routes.
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