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    2013 P85 vibration *HELP*

    Did they check your rear subframe bushings? On my 2013 P85 they replaced most suspension components due to instability not fixing the problem, claiming the car now worked as designed. Even though it had been like this for a few months only, being totally stable for years prior to this. When they...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    This thread is now officially a trainwreck. Well done.
  3. M

    2020.12.5

    Darn it. Lost cell connectivity too. 2015 85D.
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    Help save spider stuck inside rear quarter driver's side tail lamp :(

    My 2015 85D came with a few mexican spiders in both tail lights as well. Still have`em. Unfortunately they did not survive the trip to Norway before delivery.
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    Cooling post charging

    Actually, both battery pumps kick inn at full speed @ 77% soc. Charge to 75% and you will surely avoid it.
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    I read vmax=4.198v. Be sure to read just before charging to 100% finishes as vmax is maximum applied voltage. Voltage will imediately drop slightly after finishing due to the small load from car systems. Also, it is normal to see 75-packs drop relatively fast to 70ish nominal due to initial...
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    How I fixed my air suspension leak for $1.00

    Also had this on our 2013 P85. Fixed by Tesla, paid by me since the car was out of warranty. Read about several cases like these så it is probably be a good idea to check it out before you get a leak burning out the compressor. On our car the compressor relay was burnt and had to be replaced...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Wow, they replaced the warranty documents for our 2013 P85 and our 2015 85D our Tesla Account. 8-year unlimited mile warranty for battery and drive units are now reduced to 8 year/240.000km, whatever comes first - effectively removing 2,5 years of warranty on one of our vehicles. I would like to...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Think your supercharger capping is normal due to amount of usage for 90-packs. They typically reduce to 9x kW but stay there longer. 85-pack capping is reduced along most of the SOC-scale. Not the samme issue it would appear. As for range reduction, what is your vmax? Only way to be sure if...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Swell. So now they actually bump your battery temperature down lower than before potentially making your next charge stop even slower if you charged to higher soc at the last one. A problem in cold climates as it will be difficult to get the temperature back up, especially if you were to charge...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    You are missing the point and your reply does not fit the topic of my post. I do not discuss driving pattern or actual range - or how that is affected in any way. Also, I did not write that range display would vary by how you drive - on the contrary you can see me mentioning consumption...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Ok, here goes. Percentage will show the degree of "filling" if you will, but does not take into account the real capacity of the pack. 50% will be 50% wether the pack has 75 or 65 kwh remaining capacity but you will ony see 50% even though the energy remaining would be 37,5kWh or 32,5kWh...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Range display does say something about how much energy your battery contains, while % display does not.
  14. M

    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Louvers seems to be governed by refrigerant temperature according to canbus data. Made this:
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Does not make sense as the required battery temperature for optimal charging speed now is significantly higher than before the charge rate was reduced. Max rate would be achieved at 30-32 deg C before, but the max (reduced) rate now requires 36+ deg C.
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Someone at Tesla will eventually leak. Sooner or later.
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    So, where does the supercharger speed capping fit in between X and Z? Both out TMS 85`s has lost 30-40% suc power simoultaneously. Would this indicate that the BMS has detected X or Z or is it a temporary precaution? Or would this be the result of something else?
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Our 2013 P85 was impacted by supercharger speed reduction around 30-40%, but the full pack capacity was available when checking a couple of weeks ago. Cells charged all the way up to 4,2v Until now. Yesterday i charged fullly up before a long trip, and cells would not go above 4,16v Today...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Sure. Max power dropped from 116-118kW to 70ish dropping fast while charging. Power@50% dropped from 75kW to less than 50kW. Chademo would reach max of 48kW@67% before all this, but now the car limits the charge so much I only get like 30-32kW at that SOC. Normally chademo power would ramp up...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Trying. Hard. ...nope, no luck.
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Both our TMS (2013 P85/2015 85D) still charges to 4,2v, but supercharger speed has been seriously capped. 30-40% reduction throughout the entire scale with max speed at extremely low soc just above 70kW. In fact, even chademo speeds are reduced by nearly 15kW in the 60-70% soc range. The 2015...
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    2019.20.4 brought my 90% charge from 297 to 301 miles

    Nope, 70`s are not affected by the range loss discussed in that thread. Better keep topics separate.
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    Updates just came calling on both our TMS. Installed on our 85D which got a 30-40% drop in supercharger speeds during this mess. New version 2019.20.4.2.66625e9. Will postpone install on our P85 until having checked supercharger speed. Neither car has any top end voltage cap so far. Anyone...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    No change on our 2013 P85@100k miles. Charges to 100%/223 miles, nominal full pack 73,2. Scan my Tesla reports 4,198 on highest cell just before completing charge, and pack voltage 402v. Dropped ever so slightly after complete. Battery pumps and powertrain pumps were running after charging...
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    Vendor Rear Adjustable Camber Bushings for Model S/X Group Buy

    How durable are these, and will there ble replacements available when they are worn out? I would consider these but put on some significant mileage. Thus suspension parts on my car gets replaced frequently, and the spare parts supply must be adequate. Would not like to revert to original due to...
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    Wiki Sudden Loss Of Range With 2019.16.x Software

    This is interesting. Unfortunately we have had our two TMS 85 on %-display, but I will do range charges on both this weekend to check BMS data and cell voltages @ 100%. We have a 2013 P85 and a 2015 85D, and the latter abruptly lost some 35% of supercharging power after update - easily adding...
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    left to right shimmy when accelerating

    Had this twice on our 2013 P85. First time it was damaged toe-links on both sides. Then it was stable for about six months before the problem returned. After changing a small pile of suspension parts without improving the situation I asked to have the rear subframe bushings checked. And they...
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    EVannex Cubby Compartment--POOR fit

    Wish i saw this thread before ordering from Evannex. Packed in a nice bag, but once the product comes out it`s like "are you f... kidding me?!". How can they be selling this at that price? Fits poorly and the decor looks like someone from kindergarten slapped it on. The $20 Topfit drawer on...
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    How to get P85 to full power

    I use typical range in kilometers (just converted to miles for your convenience). Maybe typical equals ideal? Think it`s better to use canbus values, and nominal full pack value stabilized around 72kWh. Drops a little when going for longer trips and using longer charge cycles. Based on myself...
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    How to get P85 to full power

    About 77k miles. Also, car has been in for checking battery capacity due to abnormally low nominal full pack/range readings. They did a calibration that consisted of draining the battery to 2% using hvac, leaving it overnight before supercharging it and reviewing data. Tesla`s verdict was that...
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    How to get P85 to full power

    Did a couple off pulls myself today. SOC@70%. This time the current did not drop abruptly from a steady 1170A to >900, but rolled back gradually. Also, no dotted line indicating power limitation on the instrument panel. There has been a couple of OTA updates since last time, and it appears...
  32. M

    How to get P85 to full power

    Seems they don`t unless the contactor fails, or if pre-fail is indicated.
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    Tires

    Well, compared to Michelin Primacy 3, Pilot Sport 3 and Goodyear Eagle on Model S I would prefer the Landsails any day. I have had all of them. The PS3`s came off after only 8000km as they were too noisy for my taste and the ride was somewhat harsh. Second summer on our 2013 P85 with the...
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    Tires

    The quietest, most comfortable 19" summer tire I have owned are Landsail LS588UHP. They also have extremely low rolling resistance, high treadwear rating and come very cheap. They grip very well on both wet and dry, and beat Michelin Primacy 3 in test. Downside it does not have the best steering...
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    How to get P85 to full power

    Also, this probably does not affect 0-60 times much (although throttle response was severely reduced after the drive unit scandal) as power/current starts very low from standstill and then increases to max at some speed. Full throttle from some speed triggers limit very quickly though.
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    How to get P85 to full power

    Located in Norway having 123.000km on it. Not sure when this limiting stuff was introduced as my wife drives the car daily, but i guess this has been added through OTA update some time. Neither of us drives the car very hard either so who knows when. The 2015 85D I drive does not do this; it...
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    How to get P85 to full power

    I have a 2013 P85 that somewhere along got power limitation after some 3 seconds of full throttle. Definetly was not like this before. Canbus readings show a flat 1170A current abruptly dropping to a little below 900A when this occurs, so this seems to be software controlled. Car has 17xxxx...