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2018 P100D vs 2019 Performance (raven) which to buy?
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Raven all the way; 1-pedal driving experience and smoother regen braking are worth it. And since no one else said it, don’t bother with FSD. Standard AP will provide most of the value. Many other threads on that topic.
To answer your question, I had 2018 before Refresh and believe the camera can decrease nag, so long as you’re paying attention and not picking up phone.
brainhouston
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oh yeah i forgot about that option.. don't know anything about it tho...
but again like i said, so many flavors of "one pedal" out there...
when u just said "one pedal" without any details, most ppl think of PM motor that lets u stop with just release of accelerator, aka raven n later cars
beatle
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This is referring to the friction brakes activating when regen is limited due to low temperature or high SoC. It is designed to give a similar driving experience in all conditions. Tesla made this change on the 3/Y but not the S/X. What a shame.
For the cars without permanent magnet motors, AP can already blend in friction brakes to bring the car to a stop in traffic, not sure why they didn't do this for 1-pedal driving, but my guess is because they abandoned the MobileEye system entirely.
vapor trail
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Jpandes
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12Pack
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The only thing “mixed“ about the Raven adaptive suspension is that that it mixes a controlled, but yet supple, ride. Without M3 /Y harshness and previous gen‘s float.
beatle
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Coming from a car with the performance plus suspension, I wasn't sold on the adaptive suspension right away. I liked the stiff, responsive, solid feel of the plus suspension, and I thought the adaptive suspension was a little soft. It has grown on me, however, and it can still be pretty stiff when the sliders are maxed out. It is less fatiguing on long trips and is better at absorbing bumps than the old plus. I never drove a standard air suspension car, but I heard it was a bit wallowy and floaty.
They are 100% identical, You can't "See" the motor so why even say that???????
I’ll be the 7th one to say definitely get a Raven, and the second one to suggest that the lack of prepaid FSD is not a reason to reject a car. I think other considerations should be what color do you personally want? White is a lot easier to keep looking good than black. Also I would recommend white seats, that gets mega compliments from passengers.
amiral_sub
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beatle
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Pretty sure the rear drive unit is the same as it's been on all P cars. I've not seen any mention of it being more powerful, unless it's from additional amps from the battery, but that's just the availability of more current. The front permanent magnet motor comes from the model 3 performance and is more powerful than the old induction motor it replaced, however.
amiral_sub
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All P cars have the same motor, But the rear was a different since it was capable of more power, But only the rear on P cars.
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