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2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware
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gtae07
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Got this in the driveway one morning...
But seriously, how did we all ever manage to drive and park without sensors and radars all over the car?
Haha, I've gotten a tractor trailer in the garage. Good stuff. This one isn't USS / parking related, but shows how bad vision is. I'm parked behind the line at a light, next to a pickup, and I get this lousy image. Also attached a view with camera by my eye position, so you can see line and screen.
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I bought a 2023 Model 3 in November of last year with the expectation of having these features and am very disappointed that Tesla did not notify buyers that they had been removed. They're not coming back unless Tesla reinstalls the USS; they can't program themselves around everything. Even now FSD can't handle getting into a turn lane if there's another turn lane near the target one. Maybe there's not been a class-action lawsuit because there's a sneaky little statement hiding in their webpage: "Some features may not be available in your area."
I bought a 2023 Model 3 in November of last year with the expectation of having these features and am very disappointed that Tesla did not notify buyers that they had been removed. They're not coming back unless Tesla reinstalls the USS; they can't program themselves around everything. Even now FSD can't handle getting into a turn lane if there's another turn lane near the target one. Maybe there's not been a class-action lawsuit because there's a sneaky little statement hiding in their webpage: "Some features may not be available in your area."
It is very disappointing , I purchased the FSD also because it included everything in the enhanced package. I bought the car in January 2023 and still no self park or auto summon. I agree with 124chase they should have not removed the sensors if they did not have the cameras working to their full potential.
I received the update on 8/31, don't know if most other people received 11.4.4 and 2023.26.11 around the same time. Still nothing for parking nor summons
Living and parking in the EU may be different from the US. All spaces, including parking spaces are much smaller than over in the US.
Especially parking with the front to a wall is difficult. The car tells you, you have driven 1 meter into the wall while in reality there is still 20cm or more to go. Especially difficult are parking spaces at an angle of 45 degrees. I understand Tesla wants to rely on vision, however if the camera's (just like me) cannot see the real distance because the hood is in the way, you have 2 choices: 1) install a camera more to the front of the car that can see in real-time what's happening there, or 2) get the USS back installed!
I really do not understand the st****ty of the decision to remove the USS without a proper alternative. Vision cannot do this, since there is simply no vision close to the front of the car. A $50 USS of $15 camera could fix this however. (The camera might get muddy).
Especially parking with the front to a wall is difficult. The car tells you, you have driven 1 meter into the wall while in reality there is still 20cm or more to go. Especially difficult are parking spaces at an angle of 45 degrees. I understand Tesla wants to rely on vision, however if the camera's (just like me) cannot see the real distance because the hood is in the way, you have 2 choices: 1) install a camera more to the front of the car that can see in real-time what's happening there, or 2) get the USS back installed!
I really do not understand the st****ty of the decision to remove the USS without a proper alternative. Vision cannot do this, since there is simply no vision close to the front of the car. A $50 USS of $15 camera could fix this however. (The camera might get muddy).
It makes me wonder if Tesla will ever bring the Auto park and Summon for cars that do not have the front bumper camera. To this day it irks me that they have decided to only add the front bumper cameras on the cybertruck while their more important vehicles in the S3XY lineup still don't have front bumper cameras even with HW4 installed.
stopcrazypp
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Did you not read the disclaimer that due to lack of ultrasonic sensors, Autopark is not working yet?
Tesla Vision Update: Replacing Ultrasonic Sensors with Tesla Vision | Tesla Support
Safety is at the core of our design and engineering decisions. In 2021, we began our transition to Tesla Vision by removing radar from Model 3 and Model Y, followed by Model S and Model X in 2022. Today, in most regions around the globe, these vehicles now rely on Tesla Vision, our camera-based...
The only feature that is working now is the Park assist.
there's the camera at the top of the windshield (in front of the rearview mirror) that provides a better angle and should allow better frontend distance estimates via vision.
but it's unlikely to be better than the USS that was removed, especially in rain or snow.
i think the problem is Tesla's naming for features is confusing.Did you not read the disclaimer that due to lack of ultrasonic sensors, Autopark is not working yet?
Tesla Vision Update: Replacing Ultrasonic Sensors with Tesla Vision | Tesla Support
Safety is at the core of our design and engineering decisions. In 2021, we began our transition to Tesla Vision by removing radar from Model 3 and Model Y, followed by Model S and Model X in 2022. Today, in most regions around the globe, these vehicles now rely on Tesla Vision, our camera-based...www.tesla.com
The only feature that is working now is the Park assist.
when i read Park Assist is working I'm assuming that means auto parallel parking but apparently it only means showing the lines around the top down view of the car.
same with FSD i was thinking i was getting the full deal like what Musk demonstrated a few weeks ago but apparently it's just Enhanced Autopilot with stopping at signs and lights. FSD beta is what i was expecting.
their nomenclature isn't very clear.
they should have perfected Tesla Vision before removing the USS.
SeanM
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Hello,
Purchased new 2023 MYLR and transferred the FSD from my 2018 M3LR during purchased.
On Friday, last week, the car downloaded the FSD Beta v11.4.7.2 (2023.27.6) and now I see the FSD version (screenshot) in the car's center console. But, am not seeing the Summon feature in my Tesla's app in my cellphone, is there something I need to do?
Thanks.
Purchased new 2023 MYLR and transferred the FSD from my 2018 M3LR during purchased.
On Friday, last week, the car downloaded the FSD Beta v11.4.7.2 (2023.27.6) and now I see the FSD version (screenshot) in the car's center console. But, am not seeing the Summon feature in my Tesla's app in my cellphone, is there something I need to do?
Thanks.
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