2023 Shipping Movements

[Temboa]

An update

MORNING CHAMPION Barcelona Dec 26. It sails through the North Atlantic Ocean parallel to the African coast. Zeebrugge Dec 31

TITUS Southampton 14 Jan & Zeebrugge 16 Jan. Today, it arrived in Singapore and is currently refueling. I hope it resumes its journey towards Suez.

HOEGH DETROIT, Zeebrugge 15 Jan. Sailing across the South China Sea to Singapore to refuel. At the moment, there is no confirmation that it transports Teslas and I don't have much hope either, however, if someone who is waiting for a car in a country in northern Europe and has a VIN, they can check if their car is on said ship through the following link ...

Cargo Tracking | RoRo tracking | Höegh Autoliners

If any search is successful, please report it.

 

[Jimmyj07]

Same, I got mine on order the day they became available

Nice you picking up from Dublin?

 

[starharbour]

Estimated delivery date for me has gone from 21 Jan - 05 feb to no estimate at all now. Was looking good when I had a VIN and 2 week delivery window. Now zero!

 

[Mark Cameron]

This is my first new car, Tesla certainly know how to give you hope then take it away!!!

 

[lfc200]

Nice you picking up from Dublin?

Yep! I’m based in Cork but when I placed the order it didn’t give me an option for a Cork collection.

 

[Jimmyj07]

This is my first new car, Tesla certainly know how to give you hope then take it away!!!

Same, apart from a company car years back, first EV though

 

[Akh141]

Good morning! According to WalWil's system, TITUS is now routing around the Cape instead of through Suez... luckily it seems the ETA is only affected by 3 ish days.

Could still be subject to change but it is due to leave Singapore in a few hours.

 

[starharbour]

Good morning! According to WalWil's system, TITUS is now routing around the Cape instead of through Suez... luckily it seems the ETA is only affected by 3 ish days.

Could still be subject to change but it is due to leave Singapore in a few hours.

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Wow. Thanks. +3 days is surprising!
Thought it was a good indication seeing another WW vehicle vessel going through Suez that TITUS would follow path. Maybe situation is expected to get worse or more likely , the insurance on thousands of Teslas going thru suez is probably far more than going around Africa

 

[Temboa]

Good morning, finally and as you just mentioned, TITUS will not travel through the usual route via Suez and will follow the same path as MORNING CHAMPION.

It seems that Tesla does not want to take risks regardless of the nationality of the ship since being an American brand and having American navy ships involved in the conflict could have problems, it makes sense. So, going into Q1 2024, there is a good chance that all ships coming to Europe will avoid passing through Suez and will have to go around Africa. We'll see...

Regarding the new ETAs, and as indicated by the TITUS transponder, Southampton 18 Jan, Zeebrugge 20 Jan.

 

[XHabjab]

An update

MORNING CHAMPION Barcelona Dec 26. It sails through the North Atlantic Ocean parallel to the African coast. Zeebrugge Dec 31

TITUS Southampton 14 Jan & Zeebrugge 16 Jan. Today, it arrived in Singapore and is currently refueling. I hope it resumes its journey towards Suez.

HOEGH DETROIT, Zeebrugge 15 Jan. Sailing across the South China Sea to Singapore to refuel. At the moment, there is no confirmation that it transports Teslas and I don't have much hope either, however, if someone who is waiting for a car in a country in northern Europe and has a VIN, they can check if their car is on said ship through the following link ...

Cargo Tracking | RoRo tracking | Höegh Autoliners

If any search is successful, please report it.

Including updated information, this seems to suggest at least 3 RORO ships in transit over quarter’s end. If so, this is new behaviour for Tesla and verification of unrolling The Wave.

 

[Oxid8ter]

Titus looks to be back on the move after having its Bunker stop. Still conflicting information regarding routes, but hopefully that will become clearer as time goes on.

 

[navguy12]

the insurance on thousands of Teslas going thru suez is probably far more than going around Africa

It seems that Tesla does not want to take risks regardless of the nationality of the ship since being an American brand and having American navy ships involved in the conflict could have problems, it makes sense.

From this morning’s Guardian newsfeed:

Typically, ships must notify their insurers when sailing through high risk areas and pay an additional premium. This risk premium paid by shipping companies was just 0.07% of the value of a ship at the start of December, but has risen to about 0.5%-0.7% in recent days.

In the last week prominent shipping companies including Maersk, Hapag Lloyd, and MSC have decided not to use the Red Sea. According to thinktank the Atlantic Council, seven of the ten biggest shipping companies by market share have suspended shipping in the Red Sea.

Red Sea crisis explained: what is happening and what does it mean for global trade?

Attacks from the Houthis on shipping vessels have increased in response to the war in Gaza, with BP halting all shipments of oil and gas through the region

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mark Cameron]

May be this is why Tesla pulled all the vins and dates

 

[starharbour]

May be this is why Tesla pulled all the vins and dates

TITUS seems to be tracking north west from Singapore towards the malacca straight instead of south west towards Jakarta
If she is going via good hope then I would’ve presumed the most direct route would be Jakarta rather than tracking north west? Do we know which way morning champion went ?

 

[Akh141]

Yes it's looking like TITUS could be headed for Suez after all based on how it's tracking and the ETA. Was skeptical of only +3 days ETA if it was going via Cape it would've been +10-14 days right?

MarineTraffic doesn't have many data points but it shows MORNING CHAMPION went south via Jakarta

 

[nefastus]

I don’t know. Seems like majority of ships go via the Malacca strait regardless of traveling toward/from Suez or Cape of Good hope.

 

[Mark Cameron]

According to AIS Titus route is though suez.

 

[Nikow]

Good morning! According to WalWil's system, TITUS is now routing around the Cape instead of through Suez... luckily it seems the ETA is only affected by 3 ish days.

Could still be subject to change but it is due to leave Singapore in a few hours.

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AIS is just aware of the destination, no ?
Picture above is from the TITUS company, it changed tonight from Suez to Cape of Good Hope

 

[starharbour]

I don’t know. Seems like majority of ships go via the Malacca strait regardless of traveling toward/from Suez or Cape of Good hope.
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There was discussion earlier that going via the cape would add 10 days to the voyage. Doesn’t seem to be the case here so wondering if Titus can steam faster?!

 

[Temboa]

MORNING CHAMPION did not need to refuel in Singapore, so it diverted directly to Jakarta.

As Nikow comments, the TITUS shipping company has modified its initial route and will have to go around Africa. The reason it passed through Singapore is because it needed to refuel, so according to its new route, once it crosses Malacca it should head south, in search of the Cape of Good Hope.

Regarding the days it will take to cover the journey, at the moment there are 4 that have joined the initial route as shown by their transponder, we will see if it is true or if it is adjusted.