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4680 cells
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MatildaModelY
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brandon8387
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this'll likely be a range improvement thing. not motor/speed improvement thing. the motors now can be hacked to go faster with the current batteries so they aren't the bottleneck
Plaid (2s 0-60) uses 18650 cells. These new 18650 cells seem to charge a lot faster than the current 2170s, as well.
I think the 4680s are primarily geared towards increasing range and simplifying manufacturing, but all cells/packs will get better over time. EVs suffer from heavy battery packs so a lighter pack with same 82 kWh capacity should reduce 0-60 times a bit.
I think the 4680s are primarily geared towards increasing range and simplifying manufacturing, but all cells/packs will get better over time. EVs suffer from heavy battery packs so a lighter pack with same 82 kWh capacity should reduce 0-60 times a bit.
The battery day presentation showed a graph with the charging speed of 4680 tabbed and tabless v 2170 (I think), and they showed that tabless was needed to just about match 2170 charging.
But 4680+structural should lead to a density increase and weight reduction that would help make it a bit better.
There have been some rumors going around about an improved performance model. It seems inevitable... eventually. I wouldn't bet on it necessarily being tied directly to 4680, though.
Terminator857
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Interested in source of the rumors. Elon did say many years ago that ludicrous mode or something similar was coming.
The battery day image shows the 4680 as having more energy, range, and power. With the front casting and structural battery pack configuration coming out of Austin, weight can also be reduced up to ~10%. Between all those factors, it is safe to say that if Tesla wants to make the Y quicker, they can. The big question is will they give it a bump, and if so, how much will they kick it up.
LMFTFY: If you don't already have a Tesla on order, you WILL have to have to awhile more
This article covers it pretty well: Tesla source code hints new versions of the Performance Model 3/Y may be coming soon [Update]
The basis is really tiny, though, so it could mean almost anything at this point.
My guess was that it would replace the p in the lineup, but really its impossible to know right now. Tesla tend to favor fewer trims, though.
4680 is all about cost savings… for Tesla. Any additional benefits consider it a perk.
Seems highly improbable they'd bump the range, acceleration boost is likely doable with software on the MYP as it already has a motor improvement over the YLR, no disagreement on suspension.
$85k would be ridiculous for the Y IMHO but different strokes...
True, its just speculation of course.
My thought process is given the low ratio of Performance to Y in the registry here, I don't believe there is a large enough addressable market to support a "Super MYP" . Personally I'd just go up to the S or even the X if a MYP didn't tick all the boxes for me.
