deonb
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Interesting. Were you able to prove a difference in Wh/mi between low and standard on your Wh/mi? How much is the effect?
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Air Suspension no longer lowers at highway speeds (FW update v5.8)
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Interesting. Were you able to prove a difference in Wh/mi between low and standard on your Wh/mi? How much is the effect?
sp4rk
Banned
I could care less if they returned the air suspension setting.
Yes, I paid for it ... but I paid mainly for purplewalt's use. My driveway is very "up and down" and without it, I scrape. I love the cars position with or without lowering.
Does anyone really know how many miles of range we lose due to being 1" higher?
No.
As so many other factors; wind, temperature, etc. affect range a little bit.
I can understand discussions here about the car we (most of us) love, but this talk of cl4ss acti0n suits being filed because of this is just overreaction.
I have no idea what it would take for me to join a class - maybe stock prices plummeting (just kidding!) - but a h3ll of a lot more than this, if anything! Other than a blatant cover up.
PeterSZ
Electrified petrolhead
I am doing this - not installing v5.8. For several months now. Because I want to decide myself to lower the car at highway speeds or not.
So far they have sent me emails, called me and today when at the service centre in Tilburg they strongly advised me to install the newest software.
According to company policy they cannot let cars leave the service centre without updating it to the newest version. However there was no time to install it.
So I had to declare it was my own choice not to update. Well they got that right, I am not. Untill version X will come out were I can choose myself to lower the car or not.
How it should have been in the first place - regarding the total nonsense of this useless change.
We'll see what happens next.
I received a call yesterday from my local service center as well. The rep was very polite, asking if I was postponing for a reason or if the update was failing. I stated I was postponing until there was an update that fixed the suspension and charging issues. I hope this feedback is making it up the food chain. Unfortunately I suspect the real reason behind the call is to reduce Tesla's potential liability or to meet a compliance requirement. My answer was clearly not a surprise to the representative, so I suspect she had heard the same thing from other owners.
Coincidentally the call came in while I was driving, and towards the end of the call the bluetooth issue I have been having reared it's ugly head. The call became garbled and after the call disconnected my iPhone and the car unpaired for about 10 seconds before reconnecting.
Supposedly there is another update coming within the next week. In the "decreased rated range" thread someone just posted 15 minutes ago that tesla told them an update was coming in 2-3 weeks, and that was 2 weeks ago. Hopefully in this update they restore the air suspension... That would be great and it would also mean Tesla owned up to their word and restored a little faith.
It is not about range. Ever wonder why you can't drive at highway speeds or even moderate speeds on high? It is about handling...
InTheShadows
Active Member
And it's about super cool tech. The car settling down when it gets up to highway speeds is just way cool.
BIGDJE
Member
Everyone needs to calm down. I talked to tesla rep today. He told me the software update will be out by end of month that we can control the low settings again. He led me to believe the auto lower will come back and also add a option if you want auto lower or not at highway speeds.
Being that I just go my car last sat and found out I could not drive in the low setting at all times was not the best news. More or less to look cool and handle better. I have a Porsche pan turbo with air suspension and can drive in the lowest setting at all times which I do. Car is very low and I never have a problem with it so I don't see why the tesla would. I will take some pics of my Porsche and post them on low setting. 100% it sits and looks lower then the low setting on the tesla.
That all being said I am happy have talking to tesla rep today that we can drive around in low setting and look cool again. LOL
I still think the low setting in tesla still sits to high. Trying to get lowering links to put on and drop it some more. I had great success with link on at least 10 previous cars and suvs.
Being that I just go my car last sat and found out I could not drive in the low setting at all times was not the best news. More or less to look cool and handle better. I have a Porsche pan turbo with air suspension and can drive in the lowest setting at all times which I do. Car is very low and I never have a problem with it so I don't see why the tesla would. I will take some pics of my Porsche and post them on low setting. 100% it sits and looks lower then the low setting on the tesla.
That all being said I am happy have talking to tesla rep today that we can drive around in low setting and look cool again. LOL
I still think the low setting in tesla still sits to high. Trying to get lowering links to put on and drop it some more. I had great success with link on at least 10 previous cars and suvs.
Welcome to the forums.
Without revealing the name of the Tesla representative, can you indicate his/her title? Was this a Delivery Specialist, a Store Manager, Tesla executive, etc.?
Thanks.
Larry
gnelson
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I was fortunate that the Houston SC didn't install 5.8 on my P85+ on Tuesday. They tried to convince me I needed the latest firmware. They loaned me a P85+ with 5.8. I didn't like the standard suspension setting at highway speeds, but the real deal breaker was the reduction in regenerative braking. I was using the brakes much more than in my P85+. The SC confirmed that 5.8 reduced the regenerative braking. One reason it was deployed was to get drivers to use their brakes to keep the brake discs free of rust or glaze. I guess I will have to keep 5.6 for a much longer period because I refuse to have reduced regenerative braking. I love one pedal driving. I am shocked there has been so little pushback about the reduction in regenerative braking. I immediately noticed it and was not pleased.
So I gather that the Houston Service Center people are telling you that there was another significant change in operation due to the firmware upgrade that was undocumented in the release notes?
When I upgraded to 5.8 I noticed a reduction in regenerative braking. However, after rebooting the car and toggling the regenerative setting back and forth to Standard the original level of regenerative braking was restored.
I have a theory that there was a minor bug in the firmware implimentation such that after the upgrade the car switched to the Lower setting even though the car displayed the original Standard setting. After the reboot and toggling the setting the original Standard setting was restored along with one-petal driving.
The reason for the lack of push back is probably that the Houston people have the story wrong.
If you still have the loaner try rebooting the car and see what happens.
Larry
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gnelson
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Thanks Larry! I will have another guy in Houston to try to reboot and toggle since he has lodged a similar complaint after upgrading to 5.8.
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Did the discussions include information that the Houston SC verified that the regenerative braking was reduced to get drivers to use their brakes more? I had not seen posts discussing this, and I have read numerous pages in this thread. I do try to stay informed, but it is easy to miss some posts. I have obligations other than this forum and achieving 10000 posts.
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Did the discussions include information that the Houston SC verified that the regenerative braking was reduced to get drivers to use their brakes more? I had not seen posts discussing this, and I have read numerous pages in this thread. I do try to stay informed, but it is easy to miss some posts. I have obligations other than this forum and achieving 10000 posts.
Yes, in a different thread.
I personally have not run across an authoritative statement where this "bug" was characterized as a feature by Tesla representatives.
Larry
gnelson
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To be clear: I was referring to Larry's post, not yours. That's why I quoted his post.
NigelM
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Mod Note: one post went to snippiness. This thread has provoked a lot of emotions, let's leave out the personal snips.
BIGDJE
Member
I called 877-79-tesla to ask them about my slack account. then I figure while I had the guy on the phone I asked about the low setting. he joked and said it was promised to be out by end of month which is almost over. so lets see if they get it rolled out by next week
