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Thank you for the update. I will reach out to my rep right now and see what she can do.Update on AZ Sales tax - I just heard back from my rep; she apologized and said they have to remove it manually and that she'll be taking care of it. Thanks again @dhskiracer71 !
Same response I received from my rep. Thanks again!she apologized and said they have to remove it manually and that she'll be taking care of it. Thanks again @dhskiracer71 !
Darwin, I have a follow up question in regard to how the averaging works on e-15, mostly becuase what the SRP rep told me when I went to change to the e-15 that didn't seem to match how the plan reads. If I have only, for instance four days where I show any demand usages in a 30 day month, as follows:
Day 1= 0.6
Day 2= 0.1
Day 3= 0.1
Day 4= 0.1
Day 5-30 = 0 demand
Will this be averaged with a calculation something like this: (0.6 + 0.1 + 0.1+ 0.1)/30 = 0.03kW average demand for the month?
Or is it simply (0.6 + 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.1)/3 = 0.3kW average demand for the month?
The SRP rep on the phone indicated the latter, actually, she said I'd only be better off if I use up to 10kWrs in a demand period on this demand averaging plan, but the plan reads as if it's the first calculation. I kind of think she was confused.
I can't say I've tracked my bill closely as of late, but I'm pretty sure based on my first few bills that it's the former, with the caveat that your demand is averaged over the number of on-peak days for the billing month. Weekends and holidays don't count, so it's typically around ~21 days each month.
So for your example, your average demand would be something like: (0.6 + 0.1 + 0.1+ 0.1)/21 = 0.04kW. SRP appears to round demand to the nearest 0.1kW, but I'm not quite sure how exactly they do the rounding (I'm sure to their advantage). I believe at least that 0.040 kW and below would be rounded down to 0 kW.
The SRP rep's comment is a little funny - and troubling. That would mean you would often be better off demand-wise to try to have some negligible demand each day instead of 0.
Thanks for discussing the AZ sales tax removal. I’m installing X-Lg plus 3 powerwalls and they were charging tax. I called Tesla and rep knew AZ was one of the states that doesn’t charge tax. Told me they had to manually update my contract to remove.Same response I received from my rep. Thanks again!
I literally emailed my rep this link: https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/2r/bills/sb1229p.pdfWho are you all talking to in order to have sales tax removed? I was charged tax, just called in to the energy advisor team and they are telling me there is no exemption in AZ.
My criteria was to not pay anymore than my current electric bill. I’m on managed pay plan so $250 month. I orderEd X-Lg 16.32 Kw and 3 powerwalls. With the 20 yr loan, that’s about the same as my monthly electric bill once get all the tax incentives. I choose 3 powerwalls so I could have whole house with 2 AC units running if have grid outage. SRP will charge you a $32.44 grid fee each month so you would have to sell them back enough power to get rid of those dollars. On a TOU plan they pay you 2.81 cents per kWh.Hello,
I'm glad to finally find people with tesla solar on Arizona. I'm hoping you guys can help me figure out if I'd end up saving money with solar or not.
I'm in East Mesa with srp. I don't really understand how the fees with srp work and I wouldn't be able to afford to pay on cash so I'd have to get a loan for solar.
I've used the calculator on the site but I seem to get vastly different results on various pages.
My average bill for this entire year was 160, however my bill got as high as 377 last month so obviously in the summertime it can get pretty bad.
What I'm trying to find out is someone who's similar to me and find if you're saving money or if you'd have been better off waiting for solar until you could pay in full on cash?
How much has your monthly bill been in the summertime including how much you're paying in whatever fees srp throws at you?
I'm not sure what size system I need, the tesla website flip-flops between recommending 2 power walls and 4 power walls.
It doesn't seem like tesla has an option to speak with any experts regarding this, however I'm not entirely sure I'd trust a salesman who probably makes commission as there's been issues with them lying to some customers about savings.
In August my daily average was 101kwh
July my daily average was 80kwh
I used 3,146 kw for my last bill (mid July - mid August)
Could someone who already knows what kinda fees there would be in Mesa with srp help me figure out if this would be beneficial or not?
Okay, thanks, that's what I thought too. And dividing by 21 days does make sense. I should have thought to exclude the weekends in the calc.
Hi Jay did you end up switching to the E-15 plan? I can’t seem to wrap my head around why it would be better. I have very small demand hits every so often, but nothing more than 1kw a month.
I guess I would need to see some higher demand charges for that plan to make an impact?
I will say this month has been tough on my powerwalls and I’m barely making it to 8pm. My bill is projected to be $140 this month when it’s usually $110ish. It’s has been a hot month!
Would this plan make more sense and “if” I took a demand hit not so much of a big deal?
i like a cool house
update, my system will be installed on Wednesday in Anthem. 12.2 KW with 3 powerwalls. I am excited!!! I will be cleaning up the garage to give them more room to work this weekend. I will post pictures of the progress.
Looks fantastic!A great install by the Tesla team. They wired everything before coming back and doing the final rough in today. We only were without power for less than 3 hours this morning. On to the inspections
thx! first inspection is on monday.Looks fantastic!
No loan will be $250/month and I’m assuming my solar generation plus power wall storage covers all my electrical needs plus enough to sell back to SRP to cover $32.44 grid fee. On managed pay plan you pay a fixed amount each month. So actual bill is lower in winter so $ get banked and then used during summer when bill is closer to $400/month. My house is all electric.Thanks Kcarver,
You're at 250 a month so I'm guessing you pay somewhere around 150/month for your loan?
The extra 100 is your cost of using electric? Or am I mistaken?
What about winter time, are you still paying 250 a month or does it go down? (My water heater is gas, so my winter bills are usually fairly low whenever I don't need to run AC)