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Augmented Vision found in Model X software

Discussion in 'Model X: User Interface' started by AnxietyRanger, May 14, 2017.

  1. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    The term Augmented Vision found in Tesla Model S/X software, current Model S/X referred to as legacy:

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    AP2.0 Cameras: Capabilities and Limitations?

    The Augmented Vision is refusing to display an image on current "legacy" vehicles and might some future hardware iteration (such as in Model 3?) to work. Thanks @verygreen for the discovery.

    I thought I'd start a thread for it here to not clutter the AP2.0 research thread with speculation.

    What do you guys think it might be? Just a debug mode or something perhaps related to Tesla's Augmented Reality hires?

    What do you make of current Model S/X referred to as "legacy"?
     
  2. verygreen

    verygreen Curious member

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    It's clearly a debug feature.
    I speculate it just shows current cameras overlaid with detected objects and other such data.
    It appears to require a special developer build of the software, at least on the APE side.

    Also it has no connection to the lateral controls - that's just out of context crop somebody did that make it look related.
     
  3. JeffK

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    LAT CTRL I'm almost positive is lateral control. The question is, what is RR CTRL?
    Remote Reality control?

     
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    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    #4 AnxietyRanger, May 14, 2017
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    To be clear, I agree and know this. I just used a ready-made image to illustrate both points: Augmented Vision and the fact that current Model S/X features are called "legacy".
     
  5. AnxietyRanger

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    Of course, however is it a debug feature of future production functionality or merely for testing?

    Those Tesla Augmented Reality hires of course keep lingering...

    Tesla hires HoloLens designer, second Microsoft employee from the augmented reality program

    Mind you, I'm not necessarily talking about HUD. Whatever is being toyed with here could also happen on the big screen.

    My 2010 Audi A8 already had instrument cluster screen augmented reality nightvision after all...
     
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    cdub Future Model 3 owner / Current original Leaf owner

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    HUD!!! Proof of HUD!!!!

    :) /s
     
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    The tab name is "Lateral control", so yes. no idea about RR, but if you switch to it, nothing else seems to change.
    Oh, the legacy thing is all over APE firmware anyway:
    Code:
    # ls opt/autopilot/bin/legacy*
    opt/autopilot/bin/legacy_vehicle_msr  opt/autopilot/bin/legacy_vehicle_mx
    
     
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    Yes, so I've understood from the previous reports. Thanks for adding more insight.

    I think that could be a significant bit of info.

    All the more reason to wait for that Model 3 launch if one is planning a car buy?
     
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    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    Augmented Reality Summon? :)
     
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    #10 lunitiks, May 14, 2017
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    Confusing use of the word "legacy". Tesla also uses it to distinguish pre-facelift cars (the "legacy" ones) from facelifted, ie nothing to do with AP
     
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    lunitiks ˭ ˭ ʽʽʽʽʽʽʽʽʽ ʭ ʼʼʼʼʼʼʼʼʼ ˭ ˭

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    Someone suggested "Road Runner" in the other thread. What if "Road Runner" is a code name for FSD?

    @verygreen somewhere you noted that the video logging was labled teslaroadrunner magic?

    I know that they've got HW labled Coyote in the vehicle.

    Red flags if you stumble upon "acme" in the code
     
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    Lol, not this can of worms again?

    I agree with @verygreen that this is likely the camera overlay that we saw in the FSD videos:
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    Here's one for Mobileye:
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    I've been saying this for months.
     
  14. AnxietyRanger

    AnxietyRanger Well-Known Member

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    Me too. :)
     
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    Is there some reason you think augmented reality would not be plausible on the Model S/X? Or a HUD? Elon said these models would always have the best tech, so Model 3 data isn't relevant here... and I mean, it isn't like HUD is something even your $35,000 ICEs wouldn't have these days as an option, so speculating that Model S/X might get a HUD at some point is, well, automotive normal.

    I agree this Augmented Vision may well be the camera overlay we saw and merely a debug function at this stage. But the "legacy" vs. non-legacy stuff is intriguing. What might for example an upgraded (non-legacy...) big display system be capable of, if anything different... It isn't unclear that this is a testing function. What is more interesting is what that testing might tell us about future production features. For example if it means the current central display can or can not display imagery from all APE camera inputs, that limits or expands future potential for current cars and so forth.

    (For me the two big things I'm watching given Model 3 launch are the central display system and the charge port... plus the battery cells. Some of these things might be changing during the early launch and ramp-up of Model 3 for other Tesla models as well...)
     
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    My guess is that "legacy" refers to the emulated AP 1.0 features on AP 2.0 hardware.
     
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    @JeffK That sounds possibile too.
     

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