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Auto X Prize

Discussion in 'News' started by Iz, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. Iz

    Iz EVs are here to stay

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    Total prize purse is a cool $10 million.

    Auto X Prize will be worth ten million, sponsored by Progressive Casualty Insurance - AutoblogGreen

    The article on Yahoo! indicates Tesla will be among the competitors.

    Big incentive for fuel-efficient vehicle - Yahoo! News


    Is this how we will get a first view of WhiteStar ? :biggrin:
     
  2. Cobos

    Cobos S60 owner since 2013

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    Well compared to what we know of the Whitestar the only part which should be a problem would be the 200 mile range. But they've said they would reveal the Whitestar during Q2 this year so that's at best in about 2 weeks and at worst in 2 weeks and 3 months :)

    Cobos
     
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    From Wired (January 2008)

     
  4. Kardax

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    I think there's a realistic possibility that no cars qualify for the "mainstream" class.

    There are a number of prototype vehicles that claim to offer over 100 MPG, but I doubt they would meet the strict criteria of the X-Prize.

    -Ryan
     
  5. malcolm

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    I'm glad that we may not see a mainstream class winner immediately. The organisers are right to set a very high target.
     
  6. BBHighway

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    To win the prize you have to get 100 MPG.

    So, I'm wondering; If your car is powered from electricity, and you get the electricity from solar panels, exactly how big IS a gallon of sunshine anyway?

    If the electricity comes from renewable sources, then who cares if you get 100 MPG equivalent, or 50 MPG equivalent? It seems like the 100 MPG (or equivalent), goal only really matters when your stuck with using fossil fuels.

    Sure, better efficiency is always a good thing, but doesn't a car running on solar power and getting 25 MPG equivalent still produce less pollution than a fossil fuel car getting 100 MPG?
     
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    so 4 high profile technology challenges..... anyone know what these are yet ?
     
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    Not so sure. The iMiev is much further along should Mitsubishi choose to enter. Is luxury a criterion?
     
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    The fact that (for a four-wheeler) ten million dollars is just a drop in the bucket relative to the required funds, is saddening.

    BUT, winning that contest is a big boost, so more investments would likely flow in.
     
  12. mt2

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    Actually, the $10,000,000 is being split three ways. $5mil to the Mainstream Class, $2.5mil to the Alternative Class with tandem seating and $2.5mil to the Alternative Class with side-by-side seating. Since The Sedan is in the Mainstream class, that's $5mil. And $5mil is $5mil any way you count it. Can't hurt.

    But you're right - in a way. Just competing in the X-Prize will be a big boost in exposure and investments. They don't even have to win. Suppose the Model S gets 101MPGe and they lose out to someone who gets 103MPGe. So what? Tesla gets to strut it's stuff and some segment of the population will see the Model S and think "I really like that car!"
     
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    #14 Palpatine, Apr 7, 2009
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    I think the competition counts more than just the pure MPGe. It also considers whether it is a real car that has potential for coming to market with mass production. In that department, Tesla and Aptera have a huge advantage.

    The winner of the X Prize will get a huge marketing boost if they are ready to capitalize and take orders. This is much more valuable than winning "Car of the Year" from some silly car magazine or industry group. The X Prize winners of each class will make mainstream news coverage just about everywhere. There will also be a ton of coverage during the competition process.
     
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    Yes! Read page 9 of the X-Prize Guidelines. Specifically, the section requiring the entrants to be "Production Capable Vehicles".

    Side note; the qualification that "Vehicles must be capable of being manufactured in quantities of 10,000 per year" seems to rule out The Roadster.
     
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    Coupla' things. First off 2.5 M to any tandem seated car seems actually counter to being a viable vehicle. Other than jet fighters the concept in dead and it's money wasted.

    The only winners of "car of the year" are the ones who buy the most ads in those magazine.

    "Vehicles must be capable of being manufactured in quantities of 10,000 per year" Why bother entering if you were not ready to lie and say you can do this?

    There is a great documentary on the last X prize into Space. I hope someone besides Chris Paine (he has a lot to do already) is covering some of the favorites on this one.
     
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    According to the Guidelines only 1.2% of the trips are over 75 miles.
     
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    TM will have to come up with a working EP and at least the 230 mile pack to be able to compete within a year so it is definately not a slam dunk for them either. Reading this it is going to be a difficult competition.
     
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    Well if it starts in May of next year, I bet they might have that government loan and the factory site. So, I think that this timeline will work great for them.
     
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    For X Prize Contenders, Money Isn’t Everything - Wheels Blog - NYTimes.com

     

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