Autocross- SCCA EV-X Class vs. SS

[Fprodget]

Matt,
We are having an event June 4th here in Harrisburg PA.....a bit of a hike, but the courses are well set up....pretty fast and usually a 45 second or better run time. 4 runs in morning and 4 runs in afternoon. I am currently registered in XSA since so far this year, I am the only Tesla. If you or any others here come out, I will move to EVX.

Susq Autocross Event 3 & 4 - Farm Show Elmerton

SCCA - Susquehanna Region on Saturday, June 4, 2022 at Harrisburg Farm Show Elmerton Lot, Harrisburg, PA - Registration fees Registration for Members - $40 Registration for Non-Members - $55 PLEASE NOTE - WE'RE CHANGING THE WAY WE'RE HANDLING OUR EVENTS IN 2022 You can sign up for AM only, or...

www.motorsportreg.com

 

[SK360]

Matt,
We are having an event June 4th here in Harrisburg PA.....a bit of a hike, but the courses are well set up....pretty fast and usually a 45 second or better run time. 4 runs in morning and 4 runs in afternoon. I am currently registered in XSA since so far this year, I am the only Tesla. If you or any others here come out, I will move to EVX.

Susq Autocross Event 3 & 4 - Farm Show Elmerton

SCCA - Susquehanna Region on Saturday, June 4, 2022 at Harrisburg Farm Show Elmerton Lot, Harrisburg, PA - Registration fees Registration for Members - $40 Registration for Non-Members - $55 PLEASE NOTE - WE'RE CHANGING THE WAY WE'RE HANDLING OUR EVENTS IN 2022 You can sign up for AM only, or...

www.motorsportreg.com

Ah damn we got plans that weekend, let me know of any others you got going on in the summer I may try to make it out.

 

[Fprodget]

Ah damn we got plans that weekend, let me know of any others you got going on in the summer I may try to make it out.

I was hoping you would make it and school me on driving my Tesla

 

[dsgerbc]

Matt,
We are having an event June 4th here in Harrisburg PA.....a bit of a hike, but the courses are well set up....pretty fast and usually a 45 second or better run time. 4 runs in morning and 4 runs in afternoon. I am currently registered in XSA since so far this year, I am the only Tesla. If you or any others here come out, I will move to EVX.

Susq Autocross Event 3 & 4 - Farm Show Elmerton

SCCA - Susquehanna Region on Saturday, June 4, 2022 at Harrisburg Farm Show Elmerton Lot, Harrisburg, PA - Registration fees Registration for Members - $40 Registration for Non-Members - $55 PLEASE NOTE - WE'RE CHANGING THE WAY WE'RE HANDLING OUR EVENTS IN 2022 You can sign up for AM only, or...

www.motorsportreg.com

I thought EVs weren't eligible for XS classes?

 

[Fprodget]

I understand that the XS classes is a run what you brung class....with a street legal car, with an interior and 200 tw tires. I did ask the solo events board about my Tesla in XSA and they have not answered my question yet. Until then, our club does not seem to care for now.

 

[dsgerbc]

I understand that the XS classes is a run what you brung class....with a street legal car, with an interior and 200 tw tires. I did ask the solo events board about my Tesla in XSA and they have not answered my question yet. Until then, our club does not seem to care for now.

If your local competitors do not care, don't tattle on yourself

Xtreme Street (XS) Category (as of January 1, 2022)

EXCLUDED: Audi R8; Ferrari (all); Ford GT; Lamborghini (all); Lotus 7 (all including clones); McLaren (all); Electric Vehicles (all).

 

[Fprodget]

I missed that exclusion. Thanks for the heads up.

I am a rule follower typically, I will move to EVX and run by myself for PAX.....I guess.

 

[dsgerbc]

I missed that exclusion. Thanks for the heads up.

I am a rule follower typically, I will move to EVX and run by myself for PAX.....I guess.

Just bring it up at the driver's meeting, I doubt anyone would object.

 

[gearchruncher]

are saying the new RE71 is not as good as the Falken 660 for autocross.

That's what I am hearing too- More like a RS4, a semi-endurance road course tire, not a hair on fire on the first run AutoX tire.

 

[RacerChris]

I missed that exclusion. Thanks for the heads up.

I am a rule follower typically, I will move to EVX and run by myself for PAX.....I guess.

Ultimately you are taking a PAX hit by running either XS class vs. EVX so I would think people would be inclined to not be too frustrated by it even if the car is not "classed" in either XS class. I know in the couple of regions I run, points and bragging rights are typically looked at via PAX anyway (though raw time is always nice to be at the top

 

[NoDrama]

Ultimately you are taking a PAX hit by running either XS class vs. EVX so I would think people would be inclined to not be too frustrated by it even if the car is not "classed" in either XS class. I know in the couple of regions I run, points and bragging rights are typically looked at via PAX anyway (though raw time is always nice to be at the top

What would the advantage or reason be to run as XS-A or XS-B as opposed to EVX? (I didn't go back and re-read all the prior posts on this, so sorry if this has been answered already.)

 

[emiliorescigno]

The rules for XA and XB specifically exclude electric vehicles.

 

[SK360]

It's time for the SCCA to tear down it's class rules and come up with something that works in 2022 before we end up with 100 classes in 2030.

 

[Fprodget]

I was thinking XSA as there are no other EV’s running here. And T my first event here this year the fellow managing the pax data assigned EVX a factor of 1.0. I objected and at least this week he now recognizes the EVX factor now.

 

[superflyrolla]

That reminds me, I had the same thing happen. The timing truck at my latest SCCA autocross said they fixed my PAX because "EVX" which was listed as 1.0 in their timing software has changed to "EV 0.835." When I check solotime.info the class has indeed changed to "EV." Anyone else see news on this? Kinda annoyed because I just bought magnets w/ my class but not a big deal.

 

[gearchruncher]

The "X" always meant experimental, meaning they aren't sure if they will keep it or change it, and that it's brand new. If they do keep it, it will move to EV, which appears to be happening.

 

[SK360]

I bought just EV letters last year. I figure you can figure out what it is

 

[dsgerbc]

What would the advantage or reason be to run as XS-A or XS-B as opposed to EVX? (I didn't go back and re-read all the prior posts on this, so sorry if this has been answered already.)

Run in class with other cars?
It gets kinda lonely in EV. I'd love for EV to become a full-fledged class, so that I can run in local indexed classes.

 

[RacerChris]

What would the advantage or reason be to run as XS-A or XS-B as opposed to EVX? (I didn't go back and re-read all the prior posts on this, so sorry if this has been answered already.)

The only advantage would be to run with other cars (if there are other cars in those classes) - There would be zero advantage otherwise because you would take a PAX hit. Also, it appears EV is not allowed in those classes so I guess it's a moot point! For me, even though I am usually the only EV, I am going after raw time and pax time (which I'm guessing is how it is in a lot of classes).

With all of that said - I am excited because there are three of us signed up right now for EVX at the upcoming Champ Tour in Peru IN. whoo!

 

[dsgerbc]

There's a Polestar 2 and 2 more Teslas coming to a local event this weekend!