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Sports car with a social conscience: Ars reviews the BMW i8
It's an extremely accomplished vehicle... as long as you're an extrovert.
Sports car with a social conscience: Ars reviews the BMW i8 | Ars Technica
It's an extremely accomplished vehicle... as long as you're an extrovert.
Sports car with a social conscience: Ars reviews the BMW i8 | Ars Technica
Reading the automotive press the BMW numbers become much less dramatic. Also thinking about past BMW practice is relevant with the M1 and Z1, both of which cost much more to develop than their gross revenues from the vehicles. In short the i3 and i8 served as public technology demonstrators, not as independent commercial ventures on a stand alone basis. Thinking of only a single issue, economic mass production carbon fiber, much of the billions allocated to those two cars was actually preparing production technology to be used for all the rest of the line. The series-hybrid technology of the i3 needed scale public use to determine how useful it was too, and the i8 has a long list of deployed characteristics and technologies that need real world testing prior to deployment in the rest of the line.that can't be true
are they trying to scam R&D money from the German taxpayers
So, when we look at these as R&D they do make much more sense, don't they?
BTW, I bought one of those Z1's in France when they were released. BMW spent a good deal of money replacing parts that did not last, but they eventually fixed them all. Those BMW's seem to be equivalent to the Tesla Roadster. Of course Tesla never spends Billions on testing a new concept. Not yet.
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Didn't know there were any extremely accomplished two-seater or 2+2-seater sport cars for people who aren't extroverts... :wink:
We were in the White Mountains of New Hampshire this past weekend for Mt. Washington NH - Tesla car club 2015 - true story follows:
Charging at the Omni Mount Washington Resort | New Hampshire Resorts was just hopping on the shuttle to get to the Lodge across
the road and a woman on the shuttle says to me "Is that your Tesla? Nice. The BMW salesman never told us our i8 only get 15 miles on a charge".
Your mileage may vary...?
Charging at the Omni Mount Washington Resort | New Hampshire Resorts was just hopping on the shuttle to get to the Lodge across
the road and a woman on the shuttle says to me "Is that your Tesla? Nice. The BMW salesman never told us our i8 only get 15 miles on a charge".
Your mileage may vary...?
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Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
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BMW showing mirrorless i8 at CES.
BMW i8 Mirrorless concept unveiled at CES
How long ago did Tesla have Model X shown on their website with camera's only?
BMW i8 Mirrorless concept unveiled at CES
How long ago did Tesla have Model X shown on their website with camera's only?
For a few years. It's obvious that is the way Elon wants to go, but US DOT regs and many local state regs don't allow for it. So BMW can't do it in the US either.
I'm hopeful that tesla has a wiring harness for cameras behind the side mirrors for a future retrofit.
Per Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard, there was weird huge uptick on BMW i8 US sales w/656 sold/leased vs. most months of 100-200 or so.
I wonder what happened there? (Side note: One showed up at my work. I know the driver.)
Did they perhaps end up getting "sold" and then get turned into used cars? The only reason why I mention that is my friend accidentally stumbled across a surprisingly high # of used low mileage i8's listed on autotrader. At the time (recently), he found 168 used i3 but 140 used i8!
Take a look at http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/BMW/i8/Los+Angeles+CA-90024?endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&makeCode1=BMW&mmt=%5BBMW%5BBMWI8%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=BMWI8&searchRadius=0&showcaseListingId=415507379&showcaseOwnerId=94837&sortBy=mileageASC&startYear=1981&Log=0. I count about a dozen with under 150 miles on them, including some used ones with between 5 and 18 miles.
There are also a whole bunch with between 200 and ~3K miles. What happened?
I wonder what happened there? (Side note: One showed up at my work. I know the driver.)
Did they perhaps end up getting "sold" and then get turned into used cars? The only reason why I mention that is my friend accidentally stumbled across a surprisingly high # of used low mileage i8's listed on autotrader. At the time (recently), he found 168 used i3 but 140 used i8!
Take a look at http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/BMW/i8/Los+Angeles+CA-90024?endYear=2017&firstRecord=0&listingType=used&listingTypes=used&makeCode1=BMW&mmt=%5BBMW%5BBMWI8%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&modelCode1=BMWI8&searchRadius=0&showcaseListingId=415507379&showcaseOwnerId=94837&sortBy=mileageASC&startYear=1981&Log=0. I count about a dozen with under 150 miles on them, including some used ones with between 5 and 18 miles.
There are also a whole bunch with between 200 and ~3K miles. What happened?
Its common for rare/exotic cars which have a waiting list to be bought only to resell for a profit. I don't know the specifics, but as I understand it either the car manufacturers have a rule or some law exists that you can't sell it for 1 year. I haven't checked timelines, but I assume that is what is going on here.
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