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"As of February 2014" - at that time, the Tesla model S was available for order, not for sale. It has only been approved by TD recently, so maybe it is time for them to update the list soon?
You could consider almost any 13A socket a "charging point", really, if you are content with 13A. In that case, there are millions of "charging stations" in Hong Kong, although some require quite a long extension chord to reach for an EV!
I asked them the same question. The answer was that at that time there were no cars from Tesla currently approved for new sales in Hong Kong. The roadster had been discontinued, and the Model S had not been type approved.
I think they are probably getting fed up with me writing to them
Can you / someone write to ev (at) epd (dot) gov (dot) hk and let them know the Model S is now (presumably) type approved and available for sale? Perhaps they can update the list given how important this vehicle is for Hong Kong.
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I think the referred list is 'public charging stations'.
I failed the chapter in school when we learned about electricity and amperage and how it all works, so forgive me that some of the other threads that discussed this, it went over my head. :redface:
#1) Is the 13A basically the same standard socket you use at home in HK to plug in your phone charger/computer/laptop/Table lamp/vacuum cleaner..etc?
#2) At this time does the Model S have a cord that we can just plug into this 13A if we do encounter one of these charging stations?
#3) Is the problem the 13A is a ridiculously slow way to charge the vehicle and it would take several days not hours to charge the vehicle?
IDone, I've emailed them.
Do they actually respond?
#1) Same socket.
#2) No, at launch we have been told that Tesla will not be providing such an adaptor. There are adaptors available from other suppliers (Mennekes, BMW, etc), and there are rumors that Tesla will offer one of these at some later point in time.
#3) The problem is that the socket (and wiring behind it) is really designed for running your computer/laptop/phone/lamp/vacuum/etc for short periods at relatively low power, and not for 10+ hours of charging an EV at full rated power. The socket supposedly gets hot and suffers long-term damage. The concern is it may be a fire risks.
Yes.
As far as I know, you can use the standard charger, then just dial it down 13A or 10A
sound feel better.don't know why he explain the 13A maybe overheat..???
You can read the other recent threads here, there are several ones about charging. I can sum it up for you:
1) 13A charging is the least efficient, while optimum (lowest losses), are around 30A - 40A charging (based on Roadster data, thank you Mark and Tom).
2) A 13A socket isn't really designed for continuous 100% (13A) draw, especially the cabling behind it might not be up to the task. If you run your toaster or boiler for a few minutes, is not the same if your car is plugged in for many hours continuously.
To be more safe, get a charger with thermal/load protection, as well as dial it down to maybe 10A, but be aware that 10A or 13A are the worst currents to charge at.
If the installation is made very robust and with good cabling, 13A shouldn't be any issue. The problem is that the connector looks like it can be plugged into any standard 220V plug - so if Tesla Motors sell these chargers, there could be a fire somewhere, because someone plugs it into a bad installation.
Hi DITB,
I will depend on the public charging stations with my Model S, so does it mean it is safe charge Model S for 10 or more hours at a 13A EV charge station? This is very critical to me, if the answer is NEGATIVE, I should cancel my order. Kindly advise.
hi markwj and DITB,
thank a lot for your advice, last night when I learnt they would not support 13A, my heart was really broken, I feel much better now.
Just called Tesla CS, the guy does not know if they will provide 13A cable, he will call me back. Will update here when I have his response.
$3,000 HKD is a very reasonable price. In US, we pay over $500 USD for an equivalent J1772 charge cord. The cord you describe will deliver 2.2kW to the car (10A @ 220V) while the "trickle charge" cord that comes with most EVs in US only delivers 1.44kW.Tesla just replied me, said that they do not provide a 13A cable because they do not recommend that. Yet, they have 13A cable that costs $3000. I think I will take this cable, and charge at 10A. Hope this works for me!
found my car park have this 13A/10A . so i can buy Tesla 13A cable