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More climate-change levity? WHEN WILL THE MADNESS STOP

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Now, this recent opinion leaves the question of who, if anyone, may be taken to court over deaths and losses incurred in the blackout.

“It’s certainly left unaddressed by this opinion because the court wasn’t being asked that question,” Fischer said. “If anything [the judges] were saying that is a question for the Texas legislature.”

Texas FreeDumb !
 

... except Elon, who's trying to immigrate to Mars. ;)
 

Progress! Covering more time zones will benefit renewables like solar and wind!

Oh, interesting, HVDC lines! This eliminates the problem of having to sync the grids. Also, great move to switch to more renewables plus battery storage!
 
Here's the basics:

(1) Gas doesn't heat liquids well, it's always the other way

(2) AGW (Man Made CO2) theory says that the atmosphere will warm because CO2 absorbs infrared light (reducing the amount that gets to the surface of land/ocean)

(3) If you show ocean (or land) surface temps going up, especially faster than the upper atmosphere, then that's DISPROVING AGW theory. It's showing that solar output is increasing and forcing more sunlight to warm Oceans and Surface -- not that CO2 is capturing more heat and driving up temps.

So if you see sea/land surface temps going up that's not manmade that's solar made and it's disproving AGW theory. Those citing those temps and not understanding what it means, are more cult members than people following the science.

(4) Yes, since the mini ice age, we've continued to warm. This warming started about 1800... 150 years BEFORE we put out a single gigaton of CO2. Technically, and geographically, we're near the coolest the planet has ever been. It's recovering and getting warmer. The questions are not: it's warming... we know that. The questions are:
(a) whether it's warming faster that it was (and no, it doens't appear to be)
(b) what's causing it -- and whether it is due to man's minuscule contributions to Carbon output. (Mankind contributes 14Gt of the 22,056,773+ Gt of all greenhouse gasses in our system (about .0004%)).
(c) what to do about it -- and whether coal fired electric plants are cleaner than Natural Gas powered cars, etc. Even if man was the largest contributor (unlikely), it seems highly unlikely that a Solar Plant backed by a Natural Gas power plant is greener than just the Natural Gas plant, or would make a difference in our lifetimes. Or that deals which allow China/India to pollute more but punish the EU and U.S. would improve it in any way.

(5) It helps to remember Humanity is NOT creating Carbon... all the carbon trapped in fossil fuels that we release through burning, was once in our atmosphere. We are a CLOSED system. Back when we had 5,000 PPM of CO2 (compared to today's ≈400's), we had ice ages, and so on. But we also had greening of the earth, which trapped the carbon and is what we're burning when we put it back. We didn't cross a tipping point at 10x the CO2 levels of today... the idea that a doubling (or less) would cause it now requires an abject ignorant to the geological record.
 
Here's the basics:

(1) Gas doesn't heat liquids well, it's always the other way

(2) AGW (Man Made CO2) theory says that the atmosphere will warm because CO2 absorbs infrared light (reducing the amount that gets to the surface of land/ocean)

(3) If you show ocean (or land) surface temps going up, especially faster than the upper atmosphere, then that's DISPROVING AGW theory. It's showing that solar output is increasing and forcing more sunlight to warm Oceans and Surface -- not that CO2 is capturing more heat and driving up temps.

So if you see sea/land surface temps going up that's not manmade that's solar made and it's disproving AGW theory. Those citing those temps and not understanding what it means, are more cult members than people following the science.

(4) Yes, since the mini ice age, we've continued to warm. This warming started about 1800... 150 years BEFORE we put out a single gigaton of CO2. Technically, and geographically, we're near the coolest the planet has ever been. It's recovering and getting warmer. The questions are not: it's warming... we know that. The questions are:
(a) whether it's warming faster that it was (and no, it doens't appear to be)
(b) what's causing it -- and whether it is due to man's minuscule contributions to Carbon output. (Mankind contributes 14Gt of the 22,056,773+ Gt of all greenhouse gasses in our system (about .0004%)).
(c) what to do about it -- and whether coal fired electric plants are cleaner than Natural Gas powered cars, etc. Even if man was the largest contributor (unlikely), it seems highly unlikely that a Solar Plant backed by a Natural Gas power plant is greener than just the Natural Gas plant, or would make a difference in our lifetimes. Or that deals which allow China/India to pollute more but punish the EU and U.S. would improve it in any way.

(5) It helps to remember Humanity is NOT creating Carbon... all the carbon trapped in fossil fuels that we release through burning, was once in our atmosphere. We are a CLOSED system. Back when we had 5,000 PPM of CO2 (compared to today's ≈400's), we had ice ages, and so on. But we also had greening of the earth, which trapped the carbon and is what we're burning when we put it back. We didn't cross a tipping point at 10x the CO2 levels of today... the idea that a doubling (or less) would cause it now requires an abject ignorant to the geological record.
Sorry but I disagree with you. Oceans are warming because of the Energy Imbalance caused by AGW. Please study the science of GHE.
 
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Sorry but I disagree with you. Oceans are warming because of the Energy Imbalance caused by AGW. Please study the science of GHE.

I have studied the science. Physics are science. Gasses don't heat liquids well. Liquids heat gassed better. (Based on relative density). AGW theory was that the atmosphere captured more infrared light and warms up (especially up high and at the poles). If the Oceans are warming, especially more than the upper atmosphere or poles, it proves that the warming isn't coming from the atmosphere, but from either light absorption (more light), or geothermal -- which is the opposite of manmade CO2 theory. Please study the science.

P.S. The warmest year on record since the 1960s is irrelevant. We started warming 200 years ago at the end of the mini ice age. Of course it's getting warmer. In the geological record, we're near an all time low for the eatch.

(I giggle each time I post some scientific truth like the warming coefficients of liquid vs gas or temp record, and someone thumbs down it, because the facts don't match the agenda/bias. And I bust out laughing when then can't refute the science / point made, and so try to change the topic. Explain the physics of how the upper atmosphere warming a fraction of a degree can drive up surface temps by many degrees -- if you can, there's a Nobel prize waiting for you).

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