Climate Change Denial

[JRP3]

Some geologists think the term, "fossil fuels" is a misnomer, because zillions of dinosaurs would have had to die in several big piles all over the world to make the oil deposits

Then those "geologists" don't understand how oil was formed. Hint: It wasn't dinosaurs.

 

[DrLOAC]

Then those "geologists" don't understand how oil was formed. Hint: It wasn't dinosaurs.

That was quite the post he made. I thought I’d heard it all, but fossil fuels being naturally created and pushed up by geological forces is a new one.

 

[jimm01]

That was quite the post he made. I thought I’d heard it all, but fossil fuels being naturally created and pushed up by geological forces is a new one.

Over a decade ago it was a staple in Faux News.

 

[jimm01]

This nine-part history of Exxon’s engagement with the emerging science of climate change is the result of an eight months-long investigation conducted in 2015. The stories span four decades, and are based on primary sources, including internal company documents dating back to the late 1970s; interviews with former company employees; and other evidence published for the first time by ICN.

We found that decades ago, Exxon conducted cutting-edge climate research and then worked at the forefront of climate denial, manufacturing doubt about the scientific consensus that its own scientists had confirmed.

This series was named a finalist for the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service, and earned national recognition from many other quarters. It spawned the popular hashtag #ExxonKnew and many climate liability lawsuits.

Exxon - Inside Climate News

insideclimatenews.org

 

[GrmMastrDoobie]

Isn't electricity for EV's created by the methods the government is trying to stop? Electric cars also need lots of lithium and other toxic metals for their batteries. We'll have to increase our exploitation of third world countries for their metal ore. Some "green" inventions are more about good intentions than good results.

 

[eevee-fan]

Isn't electricity for EV's created by the methods the government is trying to stop? Electric cars also need lots of lithium and other toxic metals for their batteries. We'll have to increase our exploitation of third world countries for their metal ore. Some "green" inventions are more about good intentions than good results.

Only if technology is stagnant and no new ideas are explored. There's already a lithium mine in NV and GM is working with a company to extract lithium and other minerals from groundwater near the Salton Sea - cleaning up the water in the meantime - win-win.

GM is investing in a California lithium extraction project | TechCrunch

General Motors is investing in domestically sourced lithium. The company said Friday it became the first investor in an Australian company’s project to

techcrunch.com

 

[nwdiver]

Isn't electricity for EV's created by the methods the government is trying to stop? Electric cars also need lots of lithium and other toxic metals for their batteries. We'll have to increase our exploitation of third world countries for their metal ore. Some "green" inventions are more about good intentions than good results.

• The US is adding new wind and solar generation ~20x faster than EV consumption is increasing.
• EVs help increase the rate of renewable deployment by reducing curtailment.
• An EV offsets the resources required to produce it after < 20k miles because fools fuel is so absurdly inefficient.

EVs are about good results because math.

 

[jimm01]

Heat only moves from warm to hot.

Not according to the second law of thermodynamics. Explain how air conditioning works?

 

[eevee-fan]

Good video summarizing why denialism is wrong and their tactics to confuse.

 

[jimm01]

Good video summarizing why denialism is wrong and their tactics to confuse.

Here's a good compendium:

Floods, Fires & Heat Waves: Michael Mann on âThe New Climate Warâ & the Fight to Take Back the Planet

We speak with leading climate scientist Michael Mann about the catastrophic impact of the climate crisis around the world. He says he and other scientists predicted the extreme weather events now wreaking havoc. âWe said that if we donât stop burning fossil fuels and elevating the levels of...

www.democracynow.org

 

[DrLOAC]

Climate deniers spend a lot of time cherry-picking mainstream science predictions but not a lot looking at their own

So how have the climate deniers predictions gone over the years? Unsurprisingly not well.

Climate contrarians predicted the world would cool—it didn’t

The anticlimate-science blogosphere’s trophy cabinet is bare.

arstechnica.com

 

[eevee-fan]

KPRC Click2Houston: What’s in store for Texas this winter? Will the state experience another ice storm? Here’s what the Farmers’ Almanac says.

What’s in store for Texas this winter? Will the state experience another ice storm? Here’s what the Farmers’ Almanac says

What’s in store for Texas this winter? Will the state experience another snow storm?

www.click2houston.com

So much for the once every 30 years claim. Good news is that it won't be as severe this next year. Maybe the ROI of winterizing the wind turbines IS THERE.

 

[eevee-fan]

Futurism: Scientists Warn Gulf Stream May Collapse, Freezing North America.

Scientists Are Warning of Gulf Stream Collapse | Futurism

It's yet another climate catastrophe waiting to happen.

futurism.com

Well, this is good news for 'see, more ice' denialism. LOL

 

[MitchP85D]

Futurism: Scientists Warn Gulf Stream May Collapse, Freezing North America.

Scientists Are Warning of Gulf Stream Collapse | Futurism

It's yet another climate catastrophe waiting to happen.

futurism.com

Well, this is good news for 'see, more ice' denialism. LOL

Imagine that, the almighty CO2 molecule has the power to shut down the Gulf Stream.

 

[jimm01]

Imagine that, the almighty CO2 molecule has the power to shut down the Gulf Stream.

Welcome to the Anthropocene.

 

[nwdiver]

Imagine that, the almighty CO2 molecule has the power to shut down the Gulf Stream.

.... you're much more a tic-tac-toe than checkers guy aren't ya..... man.... chess must REALLY throw you for a loop!

 

[JRP3]

I thought the oil companies must have stopped sending his checks for a while, guess they started again.

 

[CyberGus]

Imagine that, the almighty CO2 molecule has the power to shut down the Gulf Stream.

You think CO2 is bad, wait until you fill your lungs with the deadly dihydrogen monoxide

 

[JRP3]

This is fun, more denialists waking up, slightly:

After a decade of disputing the existence of climate change, many leading Republicans are shifting their posture amid deadly heat waves, devastating drought and ferocious wildfires that have bludgeoned their districts and unnerved their constituents back home.

Members of Congress who long insisted that the climate is changing due to natural cycles have notably adjusted that view, with many now acknowledging the solid science that emissions from burning oil, gas and coal have raised Earth’s temperature.

But their growing acceptance of the reality of climate change has not translated into support for the one strategy that scientists said in a major United Nations report this week is imperative to avert an even more harrowing future: stop burning fossil fuels.

Instead, Republicans want to spend billions to prepare communities to cope with extreme weather, but are trying to block efforts by Democrats to cut the emissions that are fueling the disasters in the first place.

Amid Extreme Weather, a Shift Among Republicans on Climate Change

WASHINGTON — After a decade of disputing the existence of climate change, many leading Republicans are shifting their posture amid deadly heat waves, devastating drought and ferocious wildfires that have bludgeoned their districts and unnerved their constituents back home. Members of Congress...

www.yahoo.com

 

[woof]

You think CO2 is bad, wait until you fill your lungs with the deadly dihydrogen monoxide

That stuff is wacked! A green house gas worse than methane, the major component of acid rain, and known to be used by terrorists. Crazy stuff. When frozen it causes all sorts of problems, and when heated can cause explosions. I hear it's very hard to come by these days in the west though, so there's that.