I dunno… flat earthers, QAnon shamans, election deniers, white supremicists, lgbtq haters and antivaxxers must be crucial since apparently they’re the flickering light of human consciousness we’re trying to preserve by occupying mars…..
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Elon & Twitter
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ZenRockGarden
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It will be hilarious if Elon starts amplifying the flat-earth crowd since they caucus with his alt-right conspiracy tribe. Never mind the thousands of satellites he has in orbit - what's important here is owning the libs at all costs!
Bet TSLA
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Ian Miles Cheong is not "someone supporting something". He's a well known far right wing troll, Hitler fan-boy, climate change denier, etc., etc. And Elon retweets him constantly and seems to believe every lie this nut job pushes. It's indefensible other than by pleading insanity. That's where Elon is at now.
Raisin45567
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Tesla CEO Elon Musk Could Have Had His First Margin Call for Twitter Loan
Based on the agreement Elon Musk signed to help fund his Twitter purchase, he has experienced his first margin call because of Tesla's stock-price declines.
ElectricIAC
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For those of us who don’t watch or read the Pravda, It’s good that this thread is here to educate on all the newest .gov approved talking points, catchphrases, and labels for folks who don’t conform.
EfficientWatts
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When I say that phrase, I mean in the sense that for any given position, no matter how absurd, you'll find someone that supports it. I say someone as I take to mean a generic person, not anyone specific, as I was talking not only about this situation but other situations as well (ex. finding someone else to try to have a "both sides" conversation for things like the earth is flat vs round, or something crazy like 2+2 = 5).
If he happens to be those things that you mentioned (I have not personally dug into him but have seen his interactions in passing), then yea maybe he is more than something, but I want to make clear that when I say that I was not downplaying who he is or his effect on Elon, as again I was speaking in the general sense.
Dunno what Elon believes, but there is no question that some people do want endless masking. Heck, in my community folks were wearing masks outdoors before covid ever became a thing. It maybe a small number that believe in endless masking, but it's not zero. Some are even PH officials with authority to mandate it.
L.A. County strongly recommends indoor masking as COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations jump
Masking has returned to being "strongly recommended" in indoor public spaces in Los Angeles County. Coronavirus cases are rising across California.
www.latimes.com
ZenRockGarden
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Dunno what Elon believes, but there is no question that some people do want endless masking. Heck, in my community folks were wearing masks outdoors before covid ever became a thing. It maybe a small number that believe in endless masking, but it's not zero. Some are even PH officials with authority to mandate it.
L.A. County strongly recommends indoor masking as COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations jump
Masking has returned to being "strongly recommended" in indoor public spaces in Los Angeles County. Coronavirus cases are rising across California.
There is an enormous leap from "some people chose to wear masks in some situations and I see them" to "we demand permanent mandatory masking of the entire human race"....
Or are you going to argue in favor of -forbidding- anyone from wearing a mask? That's as bad as a forever-mandate to wear them.
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Bet TSLA
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Doesn't matter what you or anybody else believes. Elon is amplifying a tweet promoting violence, clearly against Twitter policy, and seemingly without the slightest self-awareness. The person who made the tweet does this sort of thing regularly, and Elon seems to think his opinion is important.Dunno what Elon believes, but there is no question that some people do want endless masking. Heck, in my community folks were wearing masks outdoors before covid ever became a thing. It maybe a small number that believe in endless masking, but it's not zero. Some are even PH officials with authority to mandate it.
L.A. County strongly recommends indoor masking as COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations jump
Masking has returned to being "strongly recommended" in indoor public spaces in Los Angeles County. Coronavirus cases are rising across California.
Elon seems to have lost any self-respect he once had. He has certainly lost my respect. What he's doing at Twitter has gone from the farcical to the grotesque.
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For those interested, there was no margin call because there was no margin loan in the first place.
Raisin45567
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It's not, in general, that he has this or that position, or that he holds a belief about some topics in one direction or another. It's that he expresses these beliefs publicly even when silence would be far better. It's that he does so incessantly, in an immature way, seemingly agreeing with a cast of loathsome characters he has now embraced. He mocks victims of violent attacks. He bullies people he perceives as far weaker than him. He says things that are almost a call to violence, such as prosecute fauci, or his highlighting and not disagreeing with the call to burn down the New Yorker.
I guess I still have some hope that there is something fixable in Elon. Some endocrinopathy or somesuch, entirely reversible I would hope, of course.
I just can't understand how he hangs out with, associates with, is friends with, such an assortment of orcs and trolls. Something has gone wrong with him. Our Elon, the leader of the transition to sustainable energy, creator of the best, most just and green companies on earth, is now friends with Neo-nazis. The CEO who was famous for creating a meritocratic environment where anyone was encouraged to speak up if they knew of something wrong, has become a dictator and an ogre, lashing out and firing people who dare to express even the most minute criticism.
I cannot wrap my mind around it.
I guess I still have some hope that there is something fixable in Elon. Some endocrinopathy or somesuch, entirely reversible I would hope, of course.
I just can't understand how he hangs out with, associates with, is friends with, such an assortment of orcs and trolls. Something has gone wrong with him. Our Elon, the leader of the transition to sustainable energy, creator of the best, most just and green companies on earth, is now friends with Neo-nazis. The CEO who was famous for creating a meritocratic environment where anyone was encouraged to speak up if they knew of something wrong, has become a dictator and an ogre, lashing out and firing people who dare to express even the most minute criticism.
I cannot wrap my mind around it.
ZenRockGarden
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It's well known that the personality profiles of outstanding leaders/CEO are shockingly close to those of imprisoned sociopaths.... My feeling is that Elon is brilliant but has always been close to that line. He put toes across it every now and then (see his pedo-guy incident a few years ago). But he had a team around him at Tesla and Space-X who knew him well, and had coping mechanisms to help protect him from his worst self, and the work focused his energy in positive ways.
The acquisition of Twitter air-dropped him into a completely new environment where no one dared stand up to him, and without good people carefully leaning him towards the forces of light, he tipped to the far side which is unfortunately sloped downwards.
Appointing a replacement CEO at Twitter would seem to possibly help that dynamic, but the damage may have been done (to Elon's personality - Tesla can recover from the brand damage in a few years if we can just get Elon to SHUT UP)
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ElectricIAC
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ElectricIAC
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Mostly teeth gnashing and hyperbolic clutching of pearls.
121Gwatts
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He is an embarrassment and I honestly wish that Tesla would kick him to the curb.
Tesla board should fire him and give the official reason as "cost cutting" -- if he's got time to read, watch, and respond to crap like that, he clearly doesn't have anything to do at Tesla.
You mean that Twitter went down yesterday? Actually, on second thought, it would probably be a net positive for humanity if Twitter just went down and stayed down forever. If Elon wants to spend $44 billion to shut down that cesspool for good, I'll thank him for doing so.
Lot of app problems yesterday and this AM with nothing loading, no fail whale but access and updates not working.
EVNow
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Funny thing is Elon’s neo-Nazi friends on Twitter are actually supporters of Putin.
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