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I’m interested in the answer as well. Do you have MCU2? Is that required? Any gateway configuration settings required for an NFC Key Card?Has anyone tried installing the PILLAR APPLIQUE with the NFC reader (parts 1496709-S0-B or 1496707-S0-B) on a 2018 Model S HW3/MCU2.5. I'm curious if adding this would enable Key Card functionality for the 2018 Model S. Any insights or experiences would be greatly appreciated!
Yes it is needed to install these P/N (parts 1496709-S0-B or 1496707-S0-B)I’m interested in the answer as well. Do you have MCU2? Is that required? Any gateway configuration settings required for an NFC Key Card?
Also is there a Bluetooth key option that would have antenna requirements?
APPLIQUE,MS,B PLR,LEFT HAND ASSY For vehicles manufactured on or after approximately August 21st, 2017. Must verify Vehicle Option Codes: APH3. | 1496707-S0-B |
While we are waiting for someone to weigh in, can you clarify a few things? I assume these are the 2021 refresh part. Do refresh cars use both left and right NFC pillars? Or just one on the driver’s side? And even if refresh cars ship with both, do have reason to believe it would work with just one?…PILLAR APPLIQUE with the NFC reader (parts 1496709-S0-B or 1496707-S0-B)…
As per the info I have , both pillars include NFC reader. I think (logically) one should be enough to open the car . Yes I was thinking of unlocking only beside upgrading the camera and I didn't know about other possible functions of the card. I thought it would work same as fobes to start the car without the need for any extra hardware such as internal NFC reader. The only dilema was how to configuer the card after installing the pillars , for that I had a hope that the software will download a new menu item (lock)While we are waiting for someone to weigh in, can you clarify a few things? I assume these are the 2021 refresh part. Do refresh cars use both left and right NFC pillars? Or just one on the driver’s side? And even if refresh cars ship with both, do have reason to believe it would work with just one?
And more importantly, are you just trying to unlock and are not concerned about starting the car? Because there is a separate internal NFC reader to start the car right?
I don’t know any more than you unfortunately. I’m waiting for someone more knowledgeable to join this discussion. Grin.…Please give my your view as no one in the local tesla service center seems informative. or care about reinovating an old car …
Yesterady I discussed with a Tesla expert who advised that one pillar (1496707-S0-B) should suffice since NFC operates from the driver's side only. he believes that there is a workaround to potentially get the key card operational as they do with model 3 & X . However, upon proceeding with the Tesla services team to book a service, Tesla's response was:I don’t know any more than you unfortunately. I’m waiting for someone more knowledgeable to join this discussion. Grin.
It is possible. I group features like this…
1. Things that Tesla doesn’t want you to do and makes hard for you: like upgrading your MCU. I think to keep your car secure and to protect some software features, like FSD, the encrypted gateway is Tesla corporate overseen. Removing a software limited battery lock for example.
2. Things that Tesla builds modularly that it didn’t think you’d implement but surprisingly work. Stuff like having reverse fog lights self enable in the menu in the US when you retrofit new LED tail lights that have those European features. Or adding satellite radio to a model 3 or Y. Good coding simply recognizes that it can enable them.
3. Things that Tesla restricts in certain builds for hardware variations. You have FSD HW3 and MCU1? New FSD builds would run on HW3 but the visualization don’t on MCU1 so Tesla restricts FSD builds there.
4. Things that Tesla restricts in certain builds likely just because of legacy hardware space and processing limitations. Your hardware never shipped with some groups of hardware so Tesla pares those features from your build.
The latter is my big concern.
But as you imply, retrofitting old cars is not what Tesla service centers are paid to do. But sometimes you get lucky and find technicians and advisors who are curious and have discretionary time to help.
I don’t think you’re going to configure the car as the gateway configuration is encrypted. I suspect that either it configures itself and works, or more likely, if there isn’t an unchangable gateway setting, and it doesn’t work, that the code simply doesn’t exist in that software build. Like I’m sure that there is MCU3 code that simply doesn’t compile for MCU2 cars, just like there is code from MCU2 builds that doesn’t compile for MCU1.…The main hurdle remains configuring the card to unlock the car, which, if successful, leads to the next goal: using the card to start the engine…
I don’t think you’re going to configure the car as the gateway configuration is encrypted. I suspect that either it configures itself and works, or more likely if there isn’t an unchangable gateway setting, and it doesn’t work, that the code simply doesn’t exist in that software build. Like I’m sure that there is MCU3 code that simply doesn’t compile for MCU2 cars.
Also, if the NFC pillars did unlock your car, you’d still need an NFC point inside the car to place the cars on to start right? Would it work in an NFC enabled car to hold the card out the window over the NFC spot to start the car?
I don’t think you’re going to configure the car as the gateway configuration is encrypted. I suspect that either it configures itself and works, or more likely, if there isn’t an unchangable gateway setting, and it doesn’t work, that the code simply doesn’t exist in that software build. Like I’m sure that there is MCU3 code that simply doesn’t compile for MCU2 cars, just like there is code from MCU2 builds that doesn’t compile for MCU1.
If you do install it and it doesn’t work at first, I would do a hard reset and retest second, and then if it still didn’t work, I would do a software redeploy third and then retest. I believe some self configuration only happens on software deployment.
Also, if the NFC pillars did unlock your car, you’d still need an NFC point inside the car (on which to place the card) to start right? Would it work in an NFC enabled car to hold the card out the window over the NFC spot to start the car?
Anyway, I commend your willingness to spend time and money at the service center to explore. If only all service centers were so adventurous.
Would love a link to this. Super curious as to the date of the antenna change.…Some old forum threads point to an antenna issue, suggesting a switch to a newer GPS antenna that communicates with 7 satellites instead of 3 could be the solution. Whether this applies to my situation remains to be seen. Time will tell.