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Wow.....can't we give this whole thing a rest. Everybody has made their point and I conclude that I would never challenge Tesla in or out of court, period. I love the Tesla brand would love to own one but with an extended warranty only. I ran into a young man driving a nice white Tesla and asked about warranties. He said "why have one at all" ? Because his first Tesla was a 2013 and he drove it to over 100K miles and dumped it on a dealer......he said he had zero problems. Now he drives a 2016 S and states that for several K miles he again had zero problems.....thus he says tires and wiper blades and that has been his expenses. I guess I am not a gambler and do not enjoy unexpected expenses. I may wait a couple of years and see who else is building an all electric car with a 300 mile range and has a better build quality tract record.
How does Tesla typically find out that a car has passed through a dealer? Carfax?
Was wondering about this. It's purchased AT a dealer but not FROM a dealer.... talk amongst yourselves.The second sale could have been a consignment sale and the vehicle not actually brought into a conventional dealer inventory.
I will find out tomorrow.
So did you find out? I'm curious because my tesla account shows it as available for purchase, even though I bought 3rd party...
Agree with your description of the EULA, it's right there for all to see. However, it's EXACTLY an insurance policy. Actually it's the definition of an insurance policy. Not that that's bad, it just is what it is. After much research I will self insure.It's NOT an insurance policy that covers you for the time the contract is in force.
Agree with your description of the EULA, it's right there for all to see. However, it's EXACTLY an insurance policy. Actually it's the definition of an insurance policy. Not that that's bad, it just is what it is. After much research I will self insure.
So did you find out? I'm curious because my tesla account shows it as available for purchase, even though I bought 3rd party...
In the states that I’m familiar with that sort of a transaction is not legal. A licensed dealer must do the title work for vehicles displayed on their “lot”. That said there may be a state that might allow a transaction like that but consumer protection laws are very specific to what a licensed dealer must do.Was wondering about this. It's purchased AT a dealer but not FROM a dealer.... talk amongst yourselves.
I realize you said most states, there are many states that do see any “warranty” or “extended service agreement” for what it is no matter what it is called. It would depend on what state you are in as to whether an Extended Servce Agreement is regulated as an insurance policy. In Florida extended service agreements are regulated by Florida Commissioner of Insurance Regulation and refunds are prorated less any warranty money paid out.No, it's not an insurance policy. An insurance policy would not deduct paid claims from future premiums paid. If you're insured, and have a loss, that loss is paid without respect to the premiums paid in the past or the future. As long as the premium is paid for the time period covered, and a covered loss occurs, the insurance company will cover that loss. End of story. You can cancel your insurance policy the next day and get a full refund of pre-paid premiums. That's EXACTLY an insurance policy.
In addition, the reason Tesla calls is an 'Extended Service AGREEMENT' and not a 'warranty' is to skirt around consumer protection laws and insurance regulations in most states. It is very, very, clearly NOT insurance nor a warranty.
My quote above was in reference to the article Plan B posted (see below), where the 'victim' expected a fully pro-prated refund for pre-paid premiums and felt cheated that he didn't get that, and is whinging about it. Since the ESA is not an insurance policy and the terms are very clearly spelled out in the short contract, he should never expected to get a full refund of the pro-rated cost of the ESA.
I got no response.
Tesla denied my eligibility to buy the ESA. They still use this message to reponse:
“We do consider a private-party purchase a 3rd party purchase, and under these conditions a person would not be able to purchase the ESA.”
“We consider the seller of a vehicle to be a 3rd party dealer in all situations except when the vehicle is a certified pre owned vehicle being sold by Tesla. For any further information and clarification you can reach out to your local service center.“
Does anyone have experience with this?