dwebb66
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I'd like to have Apple's Car Play but I suppose that could be added later via software update.
I vote for Car Play compatibility also. I've added it to my 2001 Carrara and love it.
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I'd like to have Apple's Car Play but I suppose that could be added later via software update.
Sorry. I wasn't on your tech desk back then. Here ya go:I had some videos that were encoded about 15 years ago. Once I upgraded to Windows 7, the videos would no longer play since the codecs weren't included with Windows. I spent days trying to find the right codec which would allow me to play the files but eventually gave up.
+42! A point well made!$2000 sounds like a lot of money until it makes the screaming from the back stop right away, then it seems really cheap.
The absence of DVD players, CD players, analog input, iPod®/iPhone® integration, Apple® Carplay® (or whatever) and other forms of 'Rear Seat Entertainment Systems' as built-in functions of Tesla Motors vehicles makes perfect sense to me. ...
That said, some of you might consider setting up a mini-itx computer in the car as a WiFi server to tablets and phones in the car. You may also be able to set it in such a way that you control the server from the driver's seat, and stream content to the children. For those using the rear facing jumpseats in a Model S, you can set it to switch between cameras that are viewing children, and use it as a sort of video intercom, where the kids can see your face and you can see theirs. That can be done perhaps with your phone on a mount, and a tablet set up for the kids, with the mini-itx computer being used as a server in between.
The 'Cheaper, more convenient, and easily upgradable’ comment you quoted is in reference to the incredibly over-priced built-in entertainment systems (usually well north of $1,000 US) which usually end up obsolete within a couple years.
As a side note, most content here is not available on DVD any more.. it’s moved to digital download and blu-ray (which is probably going to be short-lived as mediums go).
Furthermore, who has actually stopped and closely observed their kids recently? I have a 6 year-old nephew who slightly prefers interacting with a tablet (e.g. both educational games and simple games) over watching a film on the tablet. My 9 year old niece is about 50/50 between interaction and watching. My older kids definitely prefer interaction over watching, probably 75% interacting vs. 25% watching.
The mobile platforms are now more lucrative than either videogame consoles or PC gaming. Since tablets are based on the same technology and have larger screens, they too have seen a revolution in mobile gaming. The ability to stream video from YouTube, Hulu, and NetFlix has been a revelation. And being able to take along your favorite movies and television shows without a stack of DVDs has been a boon. The fact these devices can also be used to communicate with audio (as a phone), video (via Skype), photos (Instagram) or good old fashioned text (e-mail, Facebook) is for all intents a bonus.
I see a lot of "outdated" talk in this thread. I was unaware DVDs suddenly stopped working at the point when iPads came out
Pretty obvious most of you against a factory entertainment system don't have kids... or never had an integrate entertainment system from the factory.
We've have a minivan since my kids were babies. When they're small, they can't hold a tablet or work the DVD controls so we could control it from the front. They would fight and pick on each other after 20 minutes, or never stop talking- which is cute for a few minutes but gets out of hand after 20 minutes. There was NO WAY I'd go on a road trip without a DVD system when they were younger.
Now they're 9, 11, 12 and I'd still never go on a road trip without a DVD player. Now they can use wireless headphones so I can listen to Spotify or even the radio over the front speakers. They have phones and tablets and play game via hotspot, but on road trips, they always end up going back to the DVD for most of the drive. I tend to buy Bluray discs that include a DVD copy or at least a digital copy for the pads that we can then play through the van screen via an input. It's not needed for shorter trips but it's HUGELY useful for anything more than 30 minutes.
Have any of you tried watching a movie in the back of a vehicle using a pad... good luck not puking after 20 minutes or you're neck will be sore after 30 minutes unless you hold it up, in which case your arms will be tired after 10 minutes. Not to mention how many gigs of data would it be to run 3 pads be for 4-5 hours? Some would say use a head rest stand; call me paranoids, but I don't want ANYTHING that could injury my children in an accident. That pad could come flying out or they could smash their head or even their hand on it. It's not crash tested at all.
Just my 2 cents from a parent who has younger kids and always had an integrated entertainment system and hopes Tesla will make something available.
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Pretty obvious most of you against a factory entertainment system don't have kids... or never had an integrate entertainment system from the factory.
We've have a minivan since my kids were babies. When they're small, they can't hold a tablet or work the DVD controls so we could control it from the front. They would fight and pick on each other after 20 minutes, or never stop talking- which is cute for a few minutes but gets out of hand after 20 minutes. There was NO WAY I'd go on a road trip without a DVD system when they were younger.
Now they're 9, 11, 12 and I'd still never go on a road trip without a DVD player. Now they can use wireless headphones so I can listen to Spotify or even the radio over the front speakers. They have phones and tablets and play game via hotspot, but on road trips, they always end up going back to the DVD for most of the drive. I tend to buy Bluray discs that include a DVD copy or at least a digital copy for the pads that we can then play through the van screen via an input. It's not needed for shorter trips but it's HUGELY useful for anything more than 30 minutes.
Have any of you tried watching a movie in the back of a vehicle using a pad... good luck not puking after 20 minutes or you're neck will be sore after 30 minutes unless you hold it up, in which case your arms will be tired after 10 minutes. Not to mention how many gigs of data would it be to run 3 pads be for 4-5 hours? Some would say use a head rest stand; call me paranoids, but I don't want ANYTHING that could injury my children in an accident. That pad could come flying out or they could smash their head or even their hand on it. It's not crash tested at all.
Just my 2 cents from a parent who has younger kids and always had an integrated entertainment system and hopes Tesla will make something available.
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Yeah, for me if the car came with built in rear screens it would be a showstopper / cause for a custom mod job to remove them or cover them up - even WHO disrecommends screen time for those under 2.Toddlers (1 yr old to 3 yr old)?
The whole "screen addiction"-thing is becoming clearer to me, now.
Wow.
There's nothing 'elegant' about the rear seat of a Porsche Panamera Executive. The screens attached to the back of the front seats are just plain stupid looking. Did someone on the design team just recently discover 'Pimp My Ride' reruns or something?:cursing:I repeat myself, because this point needs to be made:
Replacing elegant integrated rear screens with dangling power cords and hold-it-yourself-or-with-duct-tape tablets without in-car Wi-Fi in a $100,000+ car is hardly modern. It's just cheap. Model S absolutely sucks in the modern rear entertainment arena when compared to high-end competition. We shall see how Model X fares.
The commercials that BMW has on YouTube to cover their latest 7-Series are absolutely pitiful in that they spend so much time talking about the detachable tablet that someone in the limousine position can busy themselves with... It's more embarrassing for them than anything that is left out of a Tesla Motors product. Because theirs is supposedly 'THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE' as opposed to the ultimate plush fatcat mobile.These are high-end cars. They would preferably have high-end features.
The point is that no matter how 'modern' a rear entertainment system may be on the date of purchase, it will be woefully backward, staid, and incompetent within two years. Better to allow your Customers to 'future proof' the in-car entertainment themselves.I get the lack of CD, DVD and TV in particular as a principle (while at times inconvenient because they remain convenient technologies), but there is no "modern" reason for not having great tablet integration with factory-integrated power and holders and/or seat-integrated touchscreens for modern video input and rear-seat car control, like the competition has. In fact, Tesla's front UI is proof of what they could do in the rear as well, if they so decided, and keep it up-to-date through software.
What? I LIKE duct tape! Besides, the more civil among barbarians such as myself have upgraded to Velcro®. :biggrin:The "riffraff" (to quote another convo) can go buy a Model 3 and hook some tablets with ducttape.
Wait... What?!? Since when is the Model X a pullman carriage with a Butler, Maidservant, and Footman at your beck and call? You can't have your children bothered to actually hold the tablet that they want to watch? Lemmeguess... They've never worn the same pair of socks twice have they? You buy them a new car every other month... Or whenever the old Rolls gets dirty, don't you? You want 'hands free' operation? VELCRO® is your answer!In a $100,000+ car holding your own tablet while watching movies and powering it from the lighter plug or an extra battery in your coat pocket is a not a good solution, nor is it the modern solution - and let's not pretend it is, no matter what Tesla does or does not.
No. They shouldn't. Tell your Chauffeur to give the kids the login for his T-Mobile Hotspot.:tongue:Also, Tesla definitely should offer in-car Wi-Fi using car 4G aerial, if they intend to have people rely on tablets for rear-seat entertainment. Hopefully Model X will address this concern (and if the feature needs its own SIM card, that's fine).
Dude. I care about that as much as I care about boulevard cruisers on Saturday night. Because they will be 'beside' me for all of 0.0003 seconds, if that long, while I pass them at hyperspeed. They'll be saying, "Whuwuzzat?!?" as my tail lights disappear over the horizon.:scared:The guy in the rear of the Audi or BMW next to your Tesla is enjoying elegant car-powered, car-aerial networked entertainment with rear-seat car feature control (including navigation) with their hands free for working on a fine wood-veneered table, with their behind on a ventilated and massaged seat no less, while your kids on the back of the Tesla are trying to get their tablets powered somehow by dangling wires to the front and connected to something through their cellphones while duct-taping it all to your neck - and begging you to turn on and off the rear seat heating every five minutes from the front.
Tell that to the other guys!:smile:Being bad is not modern.
There are devices/mounts that you can use to hold the tablet...and there's no need to stream video. Did you know you can put media files on the device and watch them that way? It may be more difficult with iPads but with Android, you can rip copies of your own DVDs/Blurays and just copy them over to the device. 0 GB of cellular data needed...and no additional cost if you already own the movies. Also, just last week Amazon started allowing offline viewing of videos available with their Amazon Prime service and I know most cable companies have apps which allow you to download video for offline viewing.
When I travel, I always have a dozen or so movies on my tablet so I have a variety of movies to choose from. I've never used a single kilobyte for streaming data...as I don't even have a data account.
Don't group everyone with kids into the same category. I wouldn't want a RES as standard on any car I own, as option sure (for others, not me). If my kids saw screens in the car, they'd always want them on. It'd lead to more fights (but I want to watch 4 hours of TV instead of just 2!)
My kids (still young, almost 3 and 5) have grown up taking road trips in the car. They never see a screen. They play/fight/talk, look at the window, play games (I spy, draw, etc.), check the trips tab in the car to see how far we are from a charger, etc. etc. etc.
Those brackets are exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to potentially breaking and turning the pad into a projectile or the kids hurting themselves against them in an accident. Hell, and adult could easily hit their head on a pad on a headrest bracket.
If you spend a little bit more (still a fraction of the cost of built-in RES), you can get some very nice holders:
And they are safe as they are up to OEM standard and safety.
You don't need to load the actual movies in each device. You can buy a $30 travel router which can act as a media server:
Just plug in a flash drive with movies in the router, and multiple devices can stream from it - no wires.
I personally haven't touched any DVDs in the last few years.
There's nothing 'elegant' about the rear seat of a Porsche Panamera Executive. The screens attached to the back of the front seats are just plain stupid looking. Did someone on the design team just recently discover 'Pimp My Ride' reruns or something?:cursing:
The point is that no matter how 'modern' a rear entertainment system may be on the date of purchase, it will be woefully backward, staid, and incompetent within two years. Better to allow your Customers to 'future proof' the in-car entertainment themselves.
Wait... What?!? Since when is the Model X a pullman carriage with a Butler, Maidservant, and Footman at your beck and call? You can't have your children bothered to actually hold the tablet that they want to watch? Lemmeguess... They've never worn the same pair of socks twice have they? You buy them a new car every other month... Or whenever the old Rolls gets dirty, don't you? You want 'hands free' operation? VELCRO® is your answer!
No. They shouldn't. Tell your Chauffeur to give the kids the login for his T-Mobile Hotspot.:tongue:
1: kids that are too young to hold an iPad should not be watching TV to begin with. Get a sock puppet.
2: my kids can hold iPads and never ever watch TV on them. They want to be online and interact. They can't interact with an iPad that is glued to the seat.
3: as was said before, any entertainment system mounted in a car is outdated as soon as it is mounted
4: my kids know nothing about DVDs, compact cassettes,fax machines, or rotary phones. Those who think that a DVD player in a car is a great idea should consider leaving the eighties behind. The age of floppy disks is as distant a ticker tape and radio tubes.
What my passengers need is powerful USB ports (not those skimpy 500mA ports that my Model S has ), a way to "throw" music from the iPad onto the car audio, and maybe a hotspot functionality.