Matthew049
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i believe my binary argument is indeed supported by enough facts that telsa is angelic and fisker is and always was crap. i dont agree at all w the way you look at the situation.
i know there's nothing illegal about koehler asking for money. it just shows they shouldnt have lent money to a company that's teetering on bankruptcy. you say those companies should be given money and that's the point of the program. oooooooooook. i dont believe high risk loans were the point of the program, altho i admit i could be wrong there. i'd have to see the fine print.
yes, people compare fisker and tesla all the time. so? you list a few basic generalities that says very little about the companies themselves. i can come up with 10 things similar about them. they both make something with 4 wheels, they both get plugged into a wall, they both are in california, they both etc etc. now, if you want to look at the things you listed and say "see!!! see how similar they are!!!" well, go ahead. i maintain that people comparing the two are comparing them very superficially and therefore really not comparing them at all. if that works for you, so be it, im not buying it. i dont think elon would either no matter how many things you listed.
fisker has 20 patents. uh huh. wow. what does that prove? who's interested in them? who are they selling their incredible knowlege to? i know a guy down the street that has a patent. correct, no innovation. building a car from the outside in was a really bad idea THEN. it turned out to be a large reason for the death of the company. the people that had high opinions of fisker had high opinions of the looks of the car. and from what i understood advanced equities raised most of their money after the DOE loan was announced. so, to my knowledge, the loan was not insulated. it was pure high risk.
as for advanced equities, yes, i think they're very shady. they were fined a million dollars by the SEC for misleading investors. i dont know if they did anything illegal or not and honestly dont care. i care just as much about their morals as i do their legality. if you're fine w them misleading investors to raise money quickly cuz, "uh, that's what they do" then knock yourself out.
i know there's nothing illegal about koehler asking for money. it just shows they shouldnt have lent money to a company that's teetering on bankruptcy. you say those companies should be given money and that's the point of the program. oooooooooook. i dont believe high risk loans were the point of the program, altho i admit i could be wrong there. i'd have to see the fine print.
yes, people compare fisker and tesla all the time. so? you list a few basic generalities that says very little about the companies themselves. i can come up with 10 things similar about them. they both make something with 4 wheels, they both get plugged into a wall, they both are in california, they both etc etc. now, if you want to look at the things you listed and say "see!!! see how similar they are!!!" well, go ahead. i maintain that people comparing the two are comparing them very superficially and therefore really not comparing them at all. if that works for you, so be it, im not buying it. i dont think elon would either no matter how many things you listed.
fisker has 20 patents. uh huh. wow. what does that prove? who's interested in them? who are they selling their incredible knowlege to? i know a guy down the street that has a patent. correct, no innovation. building a car from the outside in was a really bad idea THEN. it turned out to be a large reason for the death of the company. the people that had high opinions of fisker had high opinions of the looks of the car. and from what i understood advanced equities raised most of their money after the DOE loan was announced. so, to my knowledge, the loan was not insulated. it was pure high risk.
as for advanced equities, yes, i think they're very shady. they were fined a million dollars by the SEC for misleading investors. i dont know if they did anything illegal or not and honestly dont care. i care just as much about their morals as i do their legality. if you're fine w them misleading investors to raise money quickly cuz, "uh, that's what they do" then knock yourself out.