Zilla91
Active Member
Classic Tesla isn’t it? Half thought out decision that makes things worse
See also: wipers, Tesla vision.
See also: wipers, Tesla vision.
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Flint Supercharger Open to All BEV’s
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Jason71
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Worse for customers you mean.
All of the above have a positive effect on Tesla's bottom line.
Until/unless the cumulative effect actually stops people buying the cars
See also: removal of the indicator stalk.
Sean.
Active Member
Even V4 cables could do with being at least a metre longer than they are.
The holsters are garbage too. Though I keep being told they are rolling out a new holster design, but yet to clap eyes on one. So plenty of damaged guns/connectors that aren't even 6 months old.
The holsters are garbage too. Though I keep being told they are rolling out a new holster design, but yet to clap eyes on one. So plenty of damaged guns/connectors that aren't even 6 months old.
Rustybkts
Member
This was Trafford yesterday, I arrived to it virtually full of just Teslas at 3:30pm but as I was leaving at 4:00pm we were descended on by dpd vans and a VW.
At least the vans only took one bay and are probably evening users compared to the VW that took two.
If Tesla are going to open SC's to non Teslas then the least they can do is to install longer cables!
cezdoc
Member
A note for the Mod(s): posts #6 onwards are not specific to Flint and I think would sit better in this thread:
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Tesla open up the SuC network [in UK]
https://mol.im/a/9722767 What's your thinking about this? I heard that Tesla are working on an App that will allow others EV owners to use the super charger network. It makes sense long term as we don't have petrol stations that can only be used by Ford...
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AndrewGR
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If you are delivering 200kW the longer cables needed would also have to be a lot thicker to avoid getting hot and dropping the voltage too much. The existing cables are heavy enough to be awkward, longer thicker ones could be unmanageable and might need different plugs. I understood the latest high powered superchargers had liquid cooling of the cables to overcome the problem but someone may be able to confirm or deny this.
I had my first experience of a full charging station with one bay unusable because an ID3 was using its cable in the adjacent bay. Since a Tesla would have been charged £1/ minute idle fees for occupying a bay and not charging I figure the VW owner should be paying a surcharge of £1/ minute all the time they were charging.
I’m not surprised other cars are using Tesla chargers - they look to be much cheaper than any other fast chargers.
I had my first experience of a full charging station with one bay unusable because an ID3 was using its cable in the adjacent bay. Since a Tesla would have been charged £1/ minute idle fees for occupying a bay and not charging I figure the VW owner should be paying a surcharge of £1/ minute all the time they were charging.
I’m not surprised other cars are using Tesla chargers - they look to be much cheaper than any other fast chargers.
Tesla have first mover advantage here. They built up before the other charging companies and had car sales to help subsidise the charger installation. By this point they have a really strong lead and I suspect that allows them to just do this cheaper than the other networks.
Took my wife to her first non-Tesla charger today. She had a go and got it working in the end but it wasn’t something she found all that easy. Tesla’s plug in and that’s it is how it should be. Even just using the app for other cars is probably easier than the faff of some other networks, plus more likely you’ll rock up and the chargers are working.
Zilla91
Active Member
MrBadger
Badger out
Nice simple solution.
Maybe repainting the lines (to centre the bay around the cable) of existing open sites would achieve similar effect? Might lose one bay (but better than 50% utilisation) and not be suitable for when superchargers are parallel with the bay thus shortening it, but it may suit some sites.
The cables are not long enough to bend round, at present. Would need the new ones, as in Heartlands, which are not heavy and more flexible.
Well it's not. Tesla have a good and solid app, some other charge networks the app isn't too bad but others are pretty poor in quality.It's literally the same process as any other 3rd party app
Zilla91
Active Member
You say it's not but then don't go on to explain how the process is any different, only that the Tesla app is subjectively "good and solid".
The process is identical because you have to fire up an app, you need to add your payment details and then you need to plug in, find what charger you're plugged into and then initiate the charge. There is literally zero difference.
The process is identical because you have to fire up an app, you need to add your payment details and then you need to plug in, find what charger you're plugged into and then initiate the charge. There is literally zero difference.
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