I don’t think ptz is realistic for full self driving. Imagine coding to interpret what you are seeing from an video whose point of veiw isn’t constant? That seems like it would add another degree of freedom to the fsd problem...note, I HATE the mechanical liability of PTZ mechanism, but it has to be solved, solved for car temps and vibration (and lots of abuse), but you know, this is a solved problem, mostly. outdoor ptz cameras can be bought and designed to be ruggedized. its some work but not rocket science
you also need a good suspension or good software to do the stabilization.
this adds cost.
elon hates cost.
but cost is a necessary thing when 5 nines come into play (life and death).
its always helpful to keep the end goal in mind: human beings trusting their lives to the hw/sw. in that aspect, cost is 100% irrelevant to me.
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I don't know if this is the final word but Brandon Tweeted this at midnight CA time.
In Arizona the operation shown for the entering car is illegal. If the road has a center bidirectional turn lane aka Suicide Lane, it can only be used for turning left to exit the roadway as the red car is doing, not as a pause lane or acceleration lane when entering. Likewise it is illegal to pause at a gap in the median when turning left to enter into divided roadways, though people do it all the time.What if there wasn't until you went into that lane? In general the car would still have to figure it out without relying only on other cars.
I don't know about Europe, but the USA has center left turn lanes, where it is expected to have opposing traffic come your way. Opposing traffic does not mean you are improperly in a lane. So definitely there is a need to check the lines.
Mike_TV
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No other FSD YouTubers have posted any "midnight" 9.2 videos yet so it might be delayed as Brandon mentioned.
Well I for one am very surprised that an Elon timeline was wrong.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Honestly, Elon's tweet about how new releases would be every 2 weeks was aspirational IMO. I am sure Elon told the team to aim for new releases every 2 weeks. But as with any project, delays can happen.
The real question is if what is announced is true or not.
Chazman92
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Tesla Vision in HEAVY Rain - Uncut - #FSDBeta v9.1
@ 31:00ish
How is there not a hard rule ensuring there must be agreement between blinker and turn direction? Signaling one way and turning the other is so dangerous, like you could be forgiven for thinking the car is intentionally behaving badly here
It would be better to not use the communication devices at all than indicate the exact opposite of what the car is actually doing
Just watched again and realized that doesn't even look like a left turn lane
powertoold
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Basically zero visibility here. The car should be slowing down when it's uncertain lol:
Well, well, well...look what we have here...FSD beta v9.2.
And now the 9.2 videos begin. This isn't much of a test because there is so little traffic but the larger screen visualization is nice.
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During the Olympics we heard about the 'Twisties'. Here is the FSD beta version.
linux-works
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same wire means that if there is a fault on that wire or trunk, you're toast.
that wont meet asil-d specs, imho. you are not safety-rated if you dont go to extra pains to ensure, to your best ability, that if A fails it wont take B down with it.
the wire does not have to fail; the endpoint on that wire could fail, the switch port could fail, the station could be in 'babbling idiot' mode (yes, that's a real thing and the actual name of the behavior where a station wont stop transmitting due to lack of reception or some bug). so not only would you lose 1 camera for that bad wire but you'd lose anything else on that wire that needs to talk.
that's why 'structured wiring', while it does add weight and cost, its more resilient and offers higher robustness.
cutting corners on a car is NOT my cup of tea; and when I do a design, it has all the safety features in it that I can think of. other groups 'cost reduce' things but its always a fight to try to keep the things you believe in and defend the cost that they represent.
wiring is something you really do have to plan for at step 0. you can be wise and over-provision so you have spares for expansion or even repairs; but almost no one does this; they like to have just as many as they need today and that's it. again, that 'cost' thing comes into play.
powertoold
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