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Green Tech media Article: Tesla to Big Three: Let's Be Friends

Discussion in 'News' started by paco3791, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. paco3791

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    The following is a link and text of the article. Some very interesting new tid bits.

    Greentech Media | Tesla to Big Three: Let's Be Friends

     
  2. TEG

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    Isn't that 3x what they had previous said they would do?!
     
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    Yeah I can see why they want to try to do that. As it stands now the demand clearly outstrips any supply and we'll probably see some crazy sales on ebay as the first models start to trickle out. To a certain degree that is fine for Tesla as PR, but it does show that if they had 50 more cars at that time they could probably raise prices to 120k and still sell everything they've got. I suppose Musk want to actually start earning money as well :) Now if they can ramp up production that fast is a different issue...

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    Well, if I had to guess about the [formerly] Big 3 inquiry, I'd bet GM would not be as interested in partnering with Tesla for Bluestar production. They have all their resources it seems, invested in the Volt to begin talk of such a joint venture.

    Chrysler's formation of their new entity (I forget the name) and the Dodge Zeo and other E-Revs at the Detroit auto show indicate the company may be willing to entertain such concepts for actual production. The ideas are already there.

    Ford on the other hand, has nada when it comes to BEVs and E-Revs. IMO, I'm thinking they are the ones that could benefit the most from such a joint venture. Thoughts on this?
     
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    I agree that GM would probably be the least interested in the joint venture since the Volt is already well under way.

    Chrysler and Ford are probably about on the same page, both have shown concepts but don't plan on producing any EV's or REEV's before 2012.

    Chrysler showed its 3 ENVI vehicles and Ford had the Volvo Re-Charge concept a while back. Both have probably started investigating there options but have not begun investing major resources in electric vehicles. And both may be interested in a parnership in a few years when Tesla will start developing the Bluestar.
     
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    #6 paco3791, Feb 21, 2008
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    This was one of the statements that caught me off guard. Do they really have the man power and resources to expand like this while also releasing the sedan at the same time? I would rather they focused on getting things buttoned down in one market before spreading themselves too thin.
     
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    #7 malcolm, Feb 21, 2008
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    Er.... if this is so necessary / beneficial, wouldn't they need it sooner for tens of thousands of Whitestars?

    Or is Tesla still intending to maintain independent dealerships until Bluestar?

    What happens to Tesla Stores then?
     
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    Envi thread here

    What about BMW?
     
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    Of course I am blowing my own horn here, but from everything I've read getting a car accepted in the Europe after it has passed all regulations in the US, and that means no special requirements like the old type airbags, is pretty easy. As a general rule Norwegian DMV says if a car is allowed in the US it is also allowed in Norway. If we except UK with it's right-hand-drive I believe any changes needed are pretty miniscule. As most European models use NCAP test to validate crash safety they should pay for crash tests by NCAP to increase sales but I'm pretty sure 1-2 people working on this can get the car ready for a simultanous release in most of Europe.

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    I get the sense they want an American brand. I know Lotus' body for the Roadster and production in England. BUT, does anyone else get the sense that Martin's original vision was to rekindle that American spirit?
     
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    Of course your not at all biased are you Cobos. :wink: Come on admit it you just want Tesla to come to europe as soon as possible!
     
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    I posted a comment on the Greentech media site to clarify something:

    djsiry
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    Rachel/Jennifer

    This is a very well reported article with one small but significant error - Tesla is considering partnering with an auto company or supplier for the third car in our lineup, but not necessarily the big three in Detroit. There are many other non-US based companies that could be a partner.

    Thanks for the article

    Darryl Siry
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    Tesla Motors
     
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    I also should clarify that nothing I said at the conference had to do with partnering on distribution. The expert they quoted drew that conclusion on his own. We are still planning company owned stores.
     
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    I've never said I was unbiased on the concept of getting the Tesla cars released in Europe. :) Both because range issues are less of a problem here and generally pricer are higher especially in countries without any significant national car production. So as I've mentioned a possible Whitestar will be about half the price of a BMW with comparable performance. So they will be CHEAP in Norway.
    I do realise that Tesla atm got enough on their plate. But I just hope they start looking at Europe before the Whitestar is finalized.

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    Excellent. Thank you Darryl.

    And a possible non-US partner... Hmmmm intriguing.

    But it's a long way off. Who knows what rival car companies will be doing by then.
     
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    BMW always seemed like a good match to me, but who knows.

    I think "Project Better Place" is working with Renault on cars for Israel.
    Perhaps those could be "Telsa powered"?

    Or how about a Tesla powered Lotus crossover (instead of Zap-X)?
     
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    A little more feasable now, TEG.
     

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