How many supercharger centers opened in 2017?

[AutoTechist]

I am just curious to know how many supercharger centers opened in 2017?

 

[cpa]

Go to Blueshift's page, www.supercharge.info and use the tools there to answer your question.

 

[MorrisonHiker]

I am just curious to know how many supercharger centers opened in 2017?

If you look at supercharge.info , you can see about 266 new Superchargers so far this year.

 

[FlyingKiwi]

From todays quarterly results sheet:

"We added 126 new Supercharger stations in Q3, for a total of more than 1,000 stations and over 7,000 Supercharging connectors worldwide."

Q4 2016 sheet states 790 sites & 5043 connectors

 

[TaoJones]

Anyone remember the original promise and the revised one thereafter? Something about doubling locations and then that became pedestals. And then after that the updated map came with what we can assume will be mostly urban SCs.

In late 2015, there was some scuttlebutt about all of the SvCs getting SCs both internal and for owner use. They’ve probably revised that due to competition for resources at locations including Salt Lake, Buena Park, and there was one in... Tennessee or Kentucky or somewhere where I saw the same thing. Not to say they aren’t still getting internal (behind the wall and off the map) SCs.

 

[wayner]

I have heard scuttlebutt that they have decided that having SCs at SvCs isn't a great idea. That is certainly the case here in Toronto where the Lawrence Ave SvC has the city's only SC and it is often a zoo. Rumour is that the SC will shut down once they get other SCs open in the city.

 

[Missile Toad]

TESLA SUMMARY REPORT OF CHARGERS 110217
Temporary charger sites: 1
Permanent charger sites: 430
Urban charger sites: 3
Sum Supercharger stalls per US: 3339
Sum Supercharger stalls per state AZ: 92
Sum Supercharger stalls per state CA: 563
Sum Supercharger stalls per state CO: 64
Sum Supercharger stalls per state FL: 141
Sum Supercharger stalls per state IL: 86
Sum Supercharger stalls per state MA: 40
Sum Supercharger stalls per state NY: 162
Sum Supercharger stalls per state OH: 60
Sum Supercharger stalls per state OR: 99
Sum Supercharger stalls per state PA: 100
Sum Supercharger stalls per state TX: 215
Sum Supercharger stalls per state NV: 96
Sum Supercharger stalls per state UT: 64

 

[ecarfan]

Something about doubling locations and then that became pedestals. And then after that the updated map came with what we can assume will be mostly urban SCs.

It was never “doubling locations”. It was doubling Superchargers. A Supercharger is a pedestal with a cable.

And your “assumption” about the new Superchargers being “mostly urban SCs” is just that, an assumption. And it would be incorrect. For example, a few days ago a TMC member accidentally discovered a new Supercharger site near me and just a few miles from an existing Supercharger site. It was almost completed. Yesterday it went live. It is in an urban area but it is a normal full power Supercharger site.

Yes, there are no doubt a lot of the new urban style Superchargers coming. But there are also new locations coming with full power Superchargers and there are expansions of existing Superchargers. A lot of it is happening right now in California, likely because the first several thousand Model 3 deliveries will be in that state.

And by the way, a new Supercharger location in Shanghai — an urban area — just went live with 50 stalls. Looks like the usual full power units to me. See First look at world's largest Tesla Supercharger station in Shanghai, China

 

[Missile Toad]

My notes indicate 2394 Supercharger stalls in the US on 1/1/2017. 3339/2394 x 12/10 = 67% growth rate annually, in the US.

 

[Seagram]

An exceptionally nice site just opened up right outside of DC/MD/VA border. Riverfront Tesla parking, many charging stalls, near MGM Grand Casino, resort of National Harbor. Walk to nice restaurants and shops ,,,use it or lose it! It is right on the I-95 corridor also.

 

[Electroman]

Whichever way you look at it, it is pretty impressive growth.

 

[AutoTechist]

Thank you guys!

 

[Burnt Toast]

Whichever way you look at it, it is pretty impressive growth.

Yep, but they are slowing down supercharger production now, they are bleeding cash. $6 mill a day! I don't think you'll see many between 2017 and 2018

 

[TaoJones]

Yep, but they are slowing down supercharger production now, they are bleeding cash. $6 mill a day! I don't think you'll see many between 2017 and 2018

Not slowing down. Have a look at supercharge.info. There are a record number of sites under simultaneous construction.

Are there still annoying holes? Sure - see Fort Stockton, TX. But Texas has always been a pita due to the tentacles of NADA firmly attached to the political machine.

You want an indication of sustained SC growth? Have a look at China, Mexico (for entirely different reasons and North American urban infill over the next 18 months.

 

[Burnt Toast]

Not slowing down. Have a look at supercharge.info. There are a record number of sites under simultaneous construction.

Are there still annoying holes? Sure - see Fort Stockton, TX. But Texas has always been a pita due to the tentacles of NADA firmly attached to the political machine.

You want an indication of sustained SC growth? Have a look at China, Mexico (for entirely different reasons and North American urban infill over the next 18 months.

Nope, 100% slowing down. During the end of quarter conference call, CFO said they are slowing down supercharger construction. They are burning a tonne of money a day, and this is part of the reason why. If they don't they'll be out of business inside 18 months.

 

[Rouget]

Nope, 100% slowing down. During the end of quarter conference call, CFO said they are slowing down supercharger construction. They are burning a tonne of money a day, and this is part of the reason why. If they don't they'll be out of business inside 18 months.

Indeed, but simply according infrastructure deployment with production:

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Deepak Ahuja, Tesla, Inc. - CFO [38]

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Yes. So firstly, our inventory is going to come down on S and X, and also, what's important is it is -- given these short-term delays, we have to be prudent in how we spend our money. And so we are managing our CapEx and OpEx growth to be in line with the growth of our fleet. And so for example, CapEx related to our stores or service centers or Superchargers, we are slowing that down to be in line, and that's logical. We've got growth for our fleet. So all those actions will come through in terms of helping us conserve cash.

But that doesn't mean halting everything altogether. It means slowing down urban SCs, some (how?) SCs and of course stores and SvCs, in a certain way.

 

[jelloslug]

Nope, 100% slowing down. During the end of quarter conference call, CFO said they are slowing down supercharger construction. They are burning a tonne of money a day, and this is part of the reason why. If they don't they'll be out of business inside 18 months.

Said the increasing nervous TSLA shorter for the 7 time this year.