though I still had six months of original warranty left. Dumb, I know. But I figured the four year warranty on the new MCU2 made the decision easier. Then a few days ago Tesla lowered the warranty on replacement MCUs to two years! So do I have a four year or two year warranty? (I probably should have waited six months and surely would have if I had known about the shorter warranty about to be implemented.)
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Not an expert on contract law — which is why I started the thread — but that doesn’t sound right. After all, part of the value of the transaction from the purchaser’s side is the value of the warranty. If it can be shortened after a purchase — and I believe the warranty was four years when my MCU was upgraded on June 25 — that would seem like a breach of contract.
Also, as I noted I definitely wouldn’t have done the upgrade for another six months if I had known about the upcoming warranty change, I.e., detrimental reliance on Tesla’s promise.
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Ok, then I really screwed up. Should have waited six months.
I wonder how hard it is to date the warranty change. I haven’t seen anyone posting about it here or Reddit until at least a week after my upgrade but of course it was a change without an announcement.
Wol747
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You made a contract with Tesla on a certain date: that warranty would be operable with the terms on that date. If you have a record of the date then the warranty is of that date.
If you don't, there are websites that specialise in keeping versions of things like user manuals, warranties etc - might be able to get the Jun 25th one there.
If you don't, there are websites that specialise in keeping versions of things like user manuals, warranties etc - might be able to get the Jun 25th one there.
The monster thread on the upgrade has a link to the wayback PDF and I saved a copy since my upgrade was done in March. Good to keep that around if you have issues.
Here’s the thread, the Warranty discussion is some pages back.
Tesla confirms infotainment system upgradeability from MCU1 to MCU2 for $2500
Here’s the thread, the Warranty discussion is some pages back.
Tesla confirms infotainment system upgradeability from MCU1 to MCU2 for $2500
Tesla has no active date on the warranty document. Contract ambiguity in usually construed against the drafter which is Tesla. I'm considering it 4 years before July 1 when it became public. Make Tesla prove otherwise. They can't just point to an internal document either.
I am making a copy of this thread and adding it to my car papers. It at least gives me some reference point if/when my new MCU2 or either of the two new displays craps out in 2.1 years
This is deja vu. When I bought my 2016 S I thought it was clear that my car had life-of-the-car free Supercharging yet threads here suggest I may have difficulty proving that contractual detail. Love my two Teslas and all of the wonderful updates. Not so happy that contractual terms may get cloudy over time. I would recommend that anyone who buys a new Tesla or purchases an expensive new part print the full warranty terms on that date, but as far as I can tell the document would not have dates on each page to prove when they were printed.
The problem is that lifetime free supercharging is not in the "Motor Vehicle Purchase Agreement". That document has an "integration" clause that specifically excludes things like oral statements, communications. representations and so on from being included in the purchase agree. This is standard and most contracts, especially auto purchase contracts. So the statements about free supercharging are not included in the contract we all signed: thus, very difficult to make stick in Court.
@azred if you upgraded because failure was imminent, then dumb move.
But if you upgraded because you enjoy the features the upgrade brings then might as well get the most out of it and upgrade early. Sure, there is a chance it will have a problem. But by paying now you get 6 additional months of enjoyment over the fixed life of the car.
But if you upgraded because you enjoy the features the upgrade brings then might as well get the most out of it and upgrade early. Sure, there is a chance it will have a problem. But by paying now you get 6 additional months of enjoyment over the fixed life of the car.
Wol747
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FWIW my order was confirmed late December 2019 for a 202 model and the order (which presumably counts as a legal document) specifically states unlimited lifetime supercharging.
(Bit of serendipity: I had to cancel an order mid 2019 - don't ask - which didn't have it and it just happened to be a special when I re-ordered.
(Bit of serendipity: I had to cancel an order mid 2019 - don't ask - which didn't have it and it just happened to be a special when I re-ordered
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Don’t see anything in your attachment that says it is free for the life of the car. Of course, we were told that was the case and perhaps it is mentioned somewhere in writing.FWIW my order was confirmed late December 2019 for a 202 model and the order (which presumably counts as a legal document) specifically states unlimited lifetime supercharging.
(Bit of serendipity: I had to cancel an order mid 2019 - don't ask - which didn't have it and it just happened to be a special when I re-ordered
Wol747
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>>Don’t see anything in your attachment that says it is free for the life of the car. Of course, we were told that was the case and perhaps it is mentioned somewhere in writing.<<
True - but it IS implied. The FSD option is paid for in the same way as the wheel option. Even Tesla wouldn't take the wheels off for another buyer after me (or would they?). I don't think they have a leg to stand on if they try and take away original purchasers' options that were paid for on the invoice.
True - but it IS implied. The FSD option is paid for in the same way as the wheel option. Even Tesla wouldn't take the wheels off for another buyer after me (or would they?). I don't think they have a leg to stand on if they try and take away original purchasers' options that were paid for on the invoice.
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This article was posted on July 4. Doesn’t say exactly when the warranty update was made, but it referred it as “this week.”
Tesla updates ridiculous warranty on problematic media unit and touchscreen - Electrek
Tesla updates ridiculous warranty on problematic media unit and touchscreen - Electrek
The last date we have with thr old warranty is june 1. So sleezy Tesla could have changed it last week but will say June 2 lol
“Free Unlimited Supercharging” implies free unlimited Supercharging for the life of the car? I wish that was true but it could also mean free for the first owner only as I believe that has been the case at various times. Free Supercharging has been through several iterations whenever sales needed a bump.
BTW, my 2016 Model S Tesla account also says “Free Unlimited Supercharging“ — and I have snap shots of that language in case it is changed — but to me that is too vague. When I sell my car in ten or fifteen years, we’ll see
Looks like Wayback next snapshot after June 14 is July 8, which of course shows two years, 25,000 miles. Doesn’t really help answer my question about June 25 warranty when I had my work done. Damn. But hopefully Tesla would “good will” any needed repair between 2 and 4 years, if needed, unless they can provide proof of the date when warranty changed.
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