Is my Model S the slowest Tesla made in the past two years?

[RayW]

Slowest of the fastest cars ain't so bad

 

[hpjtv]

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Why is 2016 P90D Ludicrous slower than its 2015 counterpart?

 

[Xenoilphobe]

typo thats the 90d

 

[⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️]

I think our cars really have the perfect amount of acceleration. I wore my tires out in the first 13,000 miles, so I'm glad it's not faster. Now I drive a little more civilized. I don't want to wear out my tires that fast.

The 75 RWDs are dead meat on the resale scale, so might as well just plan to keep it as a really great car for the long term.

Are you sure? How much do you think a one year old MS75 with 13,000 mi could fetch on the resale market? I would think I could get at least $50-$55k for it.

 

[FlyingCookie]

You could have a P85 that is slower than the base Model 75... thankfully I bought mine used, but I’m sure some of the early buyers of the P85 aren’t loving that they could have saved 50%, received longer range, better traction and handling, and would have been just as fast...

 

[hpjtv]

How is a p85 slower than a base 75?

 

[Xenoilphobe]

P85 is a 3.9 second 0 to 60. I think the only thing faster in the Tesla family is the P85D, P90D, P100D, and maybe the 100D

and it moves into this competition range:

Aston Martin Vantage 2015 RWD 7A 3.9 sec 12.1 sec @ 120.5 mph Road & Track
Mercedes-Benz CL63 AMG 2012 RWD 7A 3.9 sec 12.1 sec @ 119.7 mph Road & Track
Volkswagen Beetle 2013 AWD 6M 3.9 sec 12.6 sec @ 110.2 mph Motor Trend
Audi RS 5 2014 AWD 7A 3.9 sec 12.3 sec @ 112.2 mph Motor Trend
Audi S7 2013 AWD 7A 3.9 sec 12.3 sec @ 112.1 mph Motor Trend
Audi A8 2013 AWD 8A 3.9 sec 12.4 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Cadillac Escalade 2003 AWD 4A 4.0 sec 12.7 sec @ 106 mph Car and Driver
Volkswagen Jetta 2006 AWD 6A 4.0 sec 12.2 sec @ 118 mph Motor Trend
Lotus Evora 2017 RWD 6M 4.0 sec 12.4 sec @ 111.7 mph Road & Track
Mercedes-Benz CLK430 2000 RWD 5A 4.0 sec 12.4 sec @ 119 mph Car and Driver
Lotus Elise 2005 RWD 6M 4.0 sec 12.5 sec @ 110.5 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG 2008 RWD 7A 4.0 sec 12.4 sec @ 116 mph Car and Driver
Jaguar XK 2010 RWD 6A 4.0 sec 12.3 sec @ 119 mph Car and Driver
Pontiac G8 2009 RWD 6A 4.0 sec 12.1 sec @ 124 mph Motor Week
BMW M2 2016 RWD 7A 4.0 sec 12.5 sec @ 113 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz SL550 2013 RWD 7A 4.0 sec 12.5 sec @ 114 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG 2004 RWD 5A 4.1 sec 12.5 sec @ 114 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 RWD 5A 4.1 sec 12.3 sec @ 113.8 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz SLK-Class 2012 RWD 7A 4.1 sec 12.5 sec @ 116 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG 2015 RWD 7A 4.1 sec 12.2 sec @ 122 mph Car and Driver
Rolls-Royce Wraith 2014 RWD 8A 4.1 sec 12.5 sec @ 114.0 mph Motor Trend
Lotus Exige 2009 RWD 6M 4.1 sec 12.6 sec @ 110.1 mph Road & Track
Koenigsegg CC8S 2002 RWD 6M 4.1 sec 12.0 sec @ 127 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-AMG C43 2017 AWD 9A 4.1 sec 12.7 sec @ 110 mph Car and Driver
Aston Martin DB9 2013 RWD 6A 4.1 sec 12.4 sec @ 115.7 mph Motor Trend
BMW 650i 2016 RWD 8A 4.1 sec 12.6 sec @ 113 mph Car and Driver
BMW 760Li 2010 RWD 8A 4.1 sec 12.4 sec @ 115.5 mph Motor Trend
Ferrari 575M Maranello 2004 RWD 6A 4.1 sec 12.5 sec @ 117 mph Motor Week
Alfa Romeo 4C 2015 RWD 6A 4.1 sec 12.8 sec @ 104.8 mph Motor Trend
BMW 1 Series M 2011 RWD 6M 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 110.2 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-AMG E43 2017 AWD 9A 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Morgan Aero 8 2004 RWD 6M 4.2 sec 12.7 sec @ 110 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz S600 2007 RWD 5A 4.2 sec 12.6 sec @ 115 mph Car and Driver
Bentley Continental Flying Spur 2009 AWD 6A 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 110 mph Car and Driver
Audi TTS 2016 AWD 6A 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
Lamborghini Countach 1990 RWD 5M 4.2 sec 13.3 sec @ 104 mph Motor Trend
Ferrari 550 Maranello 2000 RWD 6M 4.2 sec 12.5 sec @ 116.9 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz S550 2015 AWD 7A 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 109.6 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz M-Class 2012 AWD 7A 4.2 sec 12.6 sec @ 113 mph Car and Driver
Maserati Quattroporte 2015 RWD 8A 4.2 sec 12.7 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Aston Martin Virage 2012 RWD 6A 4.2 sec 12.6 sec @ 112.7 mph Motor Trend
Aston Martin DBS 2009 RWD 6M 4.2 sec 12.4 sec @ 117.7 mph Road & Track
BMW Z8 2000 RWD 6M 4.2 sec 12.6 sec @ 111.8 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz GLA-Class 2015 AWD 7A 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG 2006 RWD 5A 4.2 sec 12.5 sec @ 115 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz CLS550 2012 RWD 7A 4.2 sec 12.8 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz CL550 2011 AWD 7A 4.2 sec 12.7 sec @ ---- mph Road & Track
Mercedes-Benz CL600 2013 RWD 5A 4.2 sec 12.6 sec @ 115 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz CL55 AMG 2003 RWD 5A 4.27 sec 12.38 sec @ 114.45 mph Motor Trend
BMW M235i 2014 RWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.9 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz GLC-Class 2017 AWD 9A 4.3 sec 13.0 sec @ 106 mph Car and Driver
Rolls-Royce Ghost 2010 RWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.7 sec @ 112.9 mph Motor Trend
Chrysler 300 2005 RWD 5A 4.3 sec 12.7 sec @ 114 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz GLS-Class 2017 AWD 7A 4.3 sec 12.8 sec @ 111 mph Car and Driver
Shelby AC Cobra 1965 RWD 4M 4.3 sec 12.2 sec @ 118 mph Car and Driver
Audi S5 2018 AWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.9 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
Pontiac GTO 2004 RWD 6M 4.3 sec 12.6 sec @ 113.5 mph Motor Trend
Rolls-Royce Dawn 2016 RWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.8 sec @ 114 mph Car and Driver
Lexus RC F 2015 RWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.7 sec @ 112.2 mph Motor Trend
BMW M240i 2017 RWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.7 sec @ 111 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz E550 2012 AWD 7A 4.3 sec 12.8 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Panoz Esperante 2003 RWD 6M 4.3 sec 12.5 sec @ 118 mph Car and Driver
Ferrari 612 Scaglietti 2005 RWD 6A 4.3 sec 12.5 sec @ 119 mph Car and Driver
Land Rover Range Rover Sport 2015 AWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.7 sec @ 110.1 mph Motor Trend
BMW 750 2016 AWD 8A 4.3 sec 12.7 sec @ 111.9 mph Motor Trend
BMW Z4 2009 RWD 7A 4.3 sec 12.9 sec @ 107.9 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz C450 AMG 2016 AWD 7A 4.4 sec 13.0 sec @ 107.7 mph Motor Trend
Kia Stinger 2018 RWD 8A 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 111 mph Car and Driver
Lotus Esprit 1998 RWD 5M 4.4 sec 12.8 sec @ 111.8 mph Motor Trend
Cadillac CTS 2014 RWD 8A 4.4 sec 12.8 sec @ 111.9 mph Motor Trend
Subaru Impreza WRX 2003 AWD 5M 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 107 mph Car and Driver
Ford Focus 2004 RWD 6M 4.4 sec 12.7 sec @ 113.7 mph Motor Trend
Audi S3 2015 AWD 6A 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
BMW X4 2017 AWD 8A 4.4 sec 13.1 sec @ 105 mph Car and Driver
Audi S4 2010 AWD 6M 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 108.9 mph Motor Trend
Subaru BRZ 2014 RWD 6M 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 112.7 mph Road & Track
BMW 440i 2018 RWD 8A 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Volvo V60 2017 AWD 8A 4.4 sec 13.0 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
Audi A6 2016 AWD 8A 4.4 sec 13.0 sec @ 107 mph Motor Trend
Lexus GS F 2016 RWD 8A 4.4 sec 12.8 sec @ 112.2 mph Motor Trend
Pontiac Solstice 2006 RWD 5M 4.4 sec 12.8 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Audi SQ5 2015 AWD 8A 4.4 sec 13.1 sec @ 104.2 mph Motor Trend
Dodge Ram 1500 2005 RWD 4A 4.4 sec 12.4 sec @ 118 mph Car and Driver
BMW 335 2007 RWD 6M 4.4 sec 12.9 sec @ 108.9 mph Road & Track
Shelby Daytona 1964 RWD 4M 4.4 sec 12.7 sec @ 111 mph Car and Driver
Toyota Tundra 2008 RWD 6A 4.4 sec 13.0 sec @ 106.3 mph Motor Trend
Ferrari F355 1995 RWD 6M 4.5 sec 13.0 sec @ 110 mph Car and Driver
Infiniti Q50 2016 RWD 7A 4.5 sec 13.0 sec @ 109.2 mph Motor Trend
BMW ActiveHybrid 2011 RWD 8A 4.5 sec 12.8 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Honda Civic 2004 FWD 6M 4.5 sec 12.7 sec @ 113.3 mph Motor Trend
Panoz AIV Roadster 1998 RWD 5M 4.5 sec 13.0 sec @ 100 mph Motor Week
BMW 540i 2017 AWD 8A 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
BMW 135 2010 RWD 6M 4.5 sec 13.0 sec @ 109.1 mph Road & Track
Aston Martin Rapide S 2014 RWD 6A 4.5 sec 12.9 sec @ 111.2 mph Motor Trend
Volvo S60 2015 AWD 6A 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 107 mph Car and Driver
Mazda RX-7 1993 RWD 5M 4.5 sec 12.8 sec @ 114 mph Motor Week
Plymouth Prowler 2000 RWD 4A 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 105.3 mph Motor Trend
BMW 435i 2014 AWD 8A 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 107 mph Car and Driver
Volvo S90 2018 AWD 8A 4.5 sec 13.3 sec @ 103 mph Car and Driver
Nissan 370Z 2010 RWD 6M 4.5 sec 12.8 sec @ 113 mph Road & Track
Jaguar XE 2017 RWD 8A 4.5 sec 12.9 sec @ 106.2 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz SL450 2017 RWD 9A 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 107 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz CLK55 AMG 2004 RWD 5A 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Maserati GranTurismo 2009 RWD 6A 4.5 sec 12.9 sec @ 110.5 mph Motor Trend
Infiniti Q60 2017 AWD 7A 4.5 sec 12.9 sec @ 111 mph Car and Driver
BMW Z3 2001 RWD 5M 4.5 sec 13.1 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz SL400 2015 RWD 7A 4.6 sec 13.1 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Porsche 935 1983 RWD 4M 4.6 sec 12.8 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Land Rover Range Rover 2013 AWD 8A 4.6 sec 13.1 sec @ 108.3 mph Motor Trend
Audi A7 2012 AWD 8A 4.6 sec 13.2 sec @ 104.2 mph Motor Trend
Maserati Ghibli 2014 AWD 8A 4.6 sec 13.2 sec @ 105.2 mph Motor Trend
Lexus LC 2018 RWD 10A 4.6 sec 13.0 sec @ 111.8 mph Road & Track
Toyota Supra 1993 RWD 6M 4.6 sec 13.1 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Nissan 350Z 2003 RWD 6M 4.61 sec 12.79 sec @ 106.53 mph Motor Trend
Maserati Coupé 2003 RWD 6A 4.7 sec 13.2 sec @ 110 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz G-class 2005 4x4 5A 4.7 sec 13.2 sec @ 103.2 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Maybach S600 2016 RWD 7A 4.7 sec 13.1 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz E320 2002 AWD 5A 4.7 sec 13.4 sec @ 103 mph Car and Driver
Honda S2000 2001 RWD 6M 4.7 sec 13.3 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
Dodge Durango 2018 AWD 8A 4.7 sec 13.3 sec @ 104 mph Car and Driver
Ferrari 512 TR 1993 RWD 5M 4.7 sec 12.9 sec @ 110 mph Motor Trend
Cadillac CT6 2017 AWD 8A 4.7 sec 13.2 sec @ 106 mph Car and Driver
Mercedes-Benz C400 2015 AWD 7A 4.7 sec 13.2 sec @ 107.3 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz C32 AMG 2003 RWD 5A 4.77 sec 13.24 sec @ 106.86 mph Motor Trend
BMW 340i 2016 RWD 6M 4.8 sec 13.3 sec @ 106 mph Car and Driver
Chrysler Crossfire 2005 RWD 5A 4.8 sec 13.4 sec @ 106 mph Car and Driver
Tesla Model 3 2017 RWD 1A 4.8 sec 13.4 sec @ 104.9 mph Motor Trend
BMW 740 2016 RWD 8A 4.8 sec 13.4 sec @ 105 mph Car and Driver
Aston Martin DB7 2001 RWD 6M 4.8 sec 12.9 sec @ 113 mph Motor Week
BMW 550i 2011 RWD 8A 4.8 sec 13.1 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
Bentley Mulsanne 2016 RWD 8A 4.8 sec 13.5 sec @ 105 mph Car and Driver
Lincoln MKZ 2017 AWD 6A 4.8 sec 13.4 sec @ 105 mph Car and Driver
Maserati Spyder 2004 RWD 6A 4.8 sec 13.2 sec @ 108.2 mph Motor Trend
Infiniti Q70 2015 AWD 7A 4.8 sec 13.4 sec @ 107 mph Car and Driver
Hyundai Genesis 2012 RWD 8A 4.8 sec 13.3 sec @ 107.1 mph Motor Trend
Mitsubishi 3000GT 1997 AWD 6M 4.8 sec 13.6 sec @ 100.5 mph Motor Trend
Mercedes-Benz E400 2015 AWD 7A 4.9 sec 13.5 sec @ 105 mph Car and Driver
BMW 640i 2016 RWD 8A 4.9 sec 13.6 sec @ 103 mph Car and Driver
Nissan 300ZX 1993 RWD 5M 4.9 sec 13.4 sec @ 110 mph Motor Week
Ford Escort 1995 AWD 5M 4.9 sec 13.6 sec @ 102 mph Motor Trend
Genesis G80 2018 RWD 8A 4.9 sec 13.5 sec @ 105 mph Car and Driver
Maserati Levante 2017 AWD 8A 4.9 sec 13.4 sec @ 103.3 mph Motor Trend
Mazda RX-8 2006 RWD 6M 4.9 sec 13.5 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
GMC Syclone 1991 AWD 4A 4.9 sec 13.9 sec @ 104.2 mph Motor Trend
Maybach 57 2004 RWD 5A 4.9 sec 13.2 sec @ 109 mph Car and Driver
BMW 228i 2014 RWD 8A 4.9 sec 13.7 sec @ 101 mph Car and Driver
Toyota Celica 2000 AWD 5M 4.9 sec 13.3 sec @ 108 mph Car and Driver
Ferrari 456 1997 RWD 4A 4.9 sec 13.3 sec @ 105.2 mph Motor Trend

 

[MIT_S60]

I was talking with a friend the other day that is anxiously waiting for his Model 3 configuration invititation and he made a comment that his Model 3 will be much faster than my 18 month old Model S (0-60 mph). He also said that I own the slowest Tesla of any model manufactured during the past two years. I thought that he was wrong but I it seems that he might be right. I own a 2016 mid-year refreshed Model S75 RWD. I believe the 0-60 mph time is around 5.6 seconds. My understanding is that Model 3’s are about a full second faster to 60 mph. Model X and S dual motor vehicles can be “uncorked” to shave around a second off the 0-60 time putting them in the mid 4 second range. RWD Model S and X vehicles manufactured a little later than mine also can be “uncorked” to also put them in the 4 second range. Do I have my facts right and is my 18 month old Model S slower than all recently made Tesla vehicles including the lower priced Model 3?

S75 RWD sold after July 2017 (and manufactured at the end of June 2016) are uncorked with a rated 0-60mph time of 4.3 seconds (before they were discontinued). S75 RWD sold before July 2017 have a rated 0-60 time of 5.5 seconds. It's supposedly due to a new drive unit (often labeled DU01). The 75D models sold after July 2017 were sold with a drive unit labeled as DU00 (which might not have actually been any new hardware after all), but it turns out that just software alone allowed the majority of S75D models sold before July 2017 to be performance "uncorked" down from 5.2 seconds for 0-60mph to 4.2 seconds. The Model 3 LR has a rated 0-60mph time of 5.1 seconds. Tesla has been pretty secretive about the differences in this new "DU01" drive unit, but thus far they have been unwilling to "uncork" any S75 RWD vehicles sold pre-July 2017.

The S75 RWD received numerous changes over the 12 months before it was discontinued, including AP1->AP2->AP2.5, power liftgate/ SAS/ LED turning lights becoming standard, newer seat design to the Premium seats, leather being replaced by vegan material, software limited 60 going away with 75 becoming standard, and the new performance drive unit. Tesla is the only auto manufacturer to make this many changes so frequently. Unfortunately it makes timing a purchase of a Tesla impossible, unless you keep delaying and never end up driving a Tesla. It would have been awesome if the S75 RWD had at least been given some sort of performance uncork to be on par with the 75D (heck even the X75D are faster than the S75 RWD), but that's just one of the cons of owning a Tesla.

 

[⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️]

S75 RWD sold after July 2017 (and manufactured at the end of June 2016) are uncorked with a rated 0-60mph time of 4.3 seconds (before they were discontinued). S75 RWD sold before July 2017 have a rated 0-60 time of 5.5 seconds. It's supposedly due to a new drive unit (often labeled DU01). The 75D models sold after July 2017 were sold with a drive unit labeled as DU00 (which might not have actually been any new hardware after all), but it turns out that just software alone allowed the majority of S75D models sold before July 2017 to be performance "uncorked" down from 5.2 seconds for 0-60mph to 4.2 seconds. The Model 3 LR has a rated 0-60mph time of 5.1 seconds. Tesla has been pretty secretive about the differences in this new "DU01" drive unit, but thus far they have been unwilling to "uncork" any S75 RWD vehicles sold pre-July 2017.

The S75 RWD received numerous changes over the 12 months before it was discontinued, including AP1->AP2->AP2.5, power liftgate/ SAS/ LED turning lights becoming standard, newer seat design to the Premium seats, leather being replaced by vegan material, software limited 60 going away with 75 becoming standard, and the new performance drive unit. Tesla is the only auto manufacturer to make this many changes so frequently. Unfortunately it makes timing a purchase of a Tesla impossible, unless you keep delaying and never end up driving a Tesla. It would have been awesome if the S75 RWD had at least been given some sort of performance uncork to be on par with the 75D (heck even the X75D are faster than the S75 RWD), but that's just one of the cons of owning a Tesla.

On paper, it sounds like I really got screwed, but when I’m driving my car it feels totally awesome. Now that I’m thinking about selling it, I hope I don’t end up feeling screwed by the depreciation hit. I just wonder how many buyers really worry about 0-60 times. If I can get at least $50,000 I’ll be happy. Any takers out there?