Seeing these arguments, and presumably by the more intelligent of those who don’t want Israel to defend itself, reminds me of the early days of 2017-2020 and seeing the TSLAQ crowd argue about Tesla going bankrupt any day — the weakness of the TSLAQ arguments convinced me that the TSLAQ bear position is a loser — they were so blinded by their bias, they lacked real facts and evidence, they were obviously guided by emotion. Same here.
The violence by Israel is precisely solely in response to the outrageous actions of Oct 7 and every moral fiber in my being hopes that every person who planned, participated, or supported those Oct 7 events is captured or killed and otherwise never allowed to do it again. Justice and morality absolutely requires it. Those who don’t see this are simply missing some basic facts, or missing basic morals in their constitution.
And now how to get to that justice is now ruled by the international rules of war — I posted those in detail up thread and also the facts supporting that Israel is following those rules. And the ICJ had. chance to find that Israel was violating them — all those who are shreiking that Israel is violating them presented their best facts and arguments, and the ICJ didn’t agree — they didn’t find that Israel was committing genocide, or any other violations of law. Indeed this preliminary ruling is completely consistent with Israel’s right to defend its territory and its people in the wake of the horrific October 7 attacks. And the Court explicitly expressed its grave concern about the fate of the October 7 hostages and to call for their immediate and unconditional release.
To be clear: That was the only immediate affirmative directive in the ruling — release the hostages.
It was terrible that innocent German civilians died and Japanese civilians died in WWII — but that is the predictable and moral consequence of the aggression of their leadership — same here. People attacked have a right to defend themselves, including pursuing the attackers, and rescuing those who were taken. As bad as it was in WWII and as bad as it is now, responding to unjust attacks than involve civilian causalities is better than the alternative of encouraging similar unjust attacks in the future. It boggles my mind that otherwise intelligent people don’t get that.
Over the long term, the world is becoming a more peaceful place (see Pinker, Better Angels) and a huge part of that is the consistent repudiation of acts of aggression and belligerence. Attacks on neighbors such as by Gazans and Russia must be rejected forcefully and decisively for the world to continue to become more peaceful in the long run.
If you have any doubt, review each of these websites in detail and consider how else to respond to these facts:
These are crimes against humanity – and the world must know.
saturday-october-seven.com
On October 7, 2023, thousands of Hamas terrorists breached Israel’s security fence. Over 1,400 men, women, and children were murdered in the ensuing attack. More than 200 were kidnapped to Gaza. These graphic videos and images document the horrors of that day.
www.hamas-massacre.net