drdumont
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What hurts your eyes?Unfortunately no hatchback, lack of rear seat space, and hurts my eyes.
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What hurts your eyes?Unfortunately no hatchback, lack of rear seat space, and hurts my eyes.
Looking at a Model 3.What hurts your eyes?
I live in Norway. There are no American car manufacturers that has been able to convince people over here that they are capable of producing quality cars (no offence). So saying a car is American made isn't a good sales pitch.There is absolutely no comparison between ANY Tesla and ANYTHING labeled Nissan. You would give up a car with over 250 miles range, Supercharging, and an American band made in America? There is simply no reason to consider anything from the Sons of Nippon rather than a Tesla.
As far as EV are concerned (and looking at Tesla sales in the country), the Norwegians seem to disagreeI live in Norway. There are no American car manufacturers that has been able to convince people over here that they are capable of producing quality cars (no offence). So saying a car is American made isn't a good sales pitch.
Japanese cars on the other hand equals reliability over here. Although, maybe a bit on the boring side.
If the Leaf is from 2019 and is the e+ version then it would have around the same consumption as that S. See some charts to help to decide, that second one has 2020 data. My 03/2016 dual motor S has similar data compared to the 2019 S on the first chart. I would have also chosen that Leaf (if it was reachable at the same time) but managed to got the S. I also have some trouble to look at the 3 but this upgraded Highland version is now looking to be very similar to S (reduced by size).I live in Norway. There are no American car manufacturers that has been able to convince people over here that they are capable of producing quality cars (no offence). So saying a car is American made isn't a good sales pitch.
Japanese cars on the other hand equals reliability over here. Although, maybe a bit on the boring side.
I've wanted to own a Tesla Model S ever since it came out. But they were way over any budget I ever had for buying a car when they were new (still are). So I have never been in a position to buy one, until now. Maybe.
Our current car needs replacement soon, and in the price range I can afford, I see that I could get a 2017-2018 Model S 75D with around 100 000 miles on it. But is it a good choice? Will it last more than just a couple of years? Will I need a ton of money to keep it rolling?
Yes, Tesla is doing great here in Norway at the moment. The Y and 3 seems to be better cars than the S and X.As far as EV are concerned (and looking at Tesla sales in the country), the Norwegians seem to disagree
I had a Model Y as a loaner over a weekend courtesy of the local Tesla dealer. It was an easy car to like. I enjoyed driving it a lot, and letting the auto pilot drive it.The kids enjoyed the panoramic roof, the legroom in the back seat, and the acceleration. The boot was also more than big enough. Only problem was that the back seat was too narrow for our needs. We won't be able to comfortably fit all 3 kids in the back when our youngest one moves on to the next size child seat.Back seat is quite a bit wider on the S than the 3 but if you're thinking kid space (and their gear) then I'd offer that the Model Y is your most likely target. Same chassis as the 3 with more interior space. I'd skip the 2020's as early build quality was questionable and look for an off-lease 2021.
Do you have seat time in the S? The back seat is certainly wider, but the middle seat has an odd curve and is extremely uncomfortable. Better to think of the car as a 4 seaterI had a Model Y as a loaner over a weekend courtesy of the local Tesla dealer. It was an easy car to like. I enjoyed driving it a lot, and letting the auto pilot drive it.The kids enjoyed the panoramic roof, the legroom in the back seat, and the acceleration. The boot was also more than big enough. Only problem was that the back seat was too narrow for our needs. We won't be able to comfortably fit all 3 kids in the back when our youngest one moves on to the next size child seat.
Had they made the back seat the same width as the Model S, I would have placed an order for a Y already!
I only need the middle seat to be wide, cause it needs to fit the current rearward facing child seat, and the future forward facing child seat, in-between the seat belt buckles (I think they're called) for the two side seats in the S.Do you have seat time in the S? The back seat is certainly wider, but the middle seat has an odd curve and is extremely uncomfortable. Better to think of the car as a 4 seater
I've wanted to own a Tesla Model S...I could get a 2017-2018 Model S 75D with around 100 000 miles on it. But is it a good choice?...
Another reason to not go for the Palladium refresh, then? 2020 Raven has only had positive comments on how comfortable it is for 3 (reasonably sized) adults here in the UK.Do you have seat time in the S? The back seat is certainly wider, but the middle seat has an odd curve and is extremely uncomfortable. Better to think of the car as a 4 seater
Haha!Unfortunately no hatchback, lack of rear seat space, and hurts my eyes.
That's the Model X in 5 seat or 7 seat. Had a 2019 X and the back seat is nice and flat (and wide). You can definitely get 3 car seats across.I had a Model Y as a loaner over a weekend courtesy of the local Tesla dealer. It was an easy car to like. I enjoyed driving it a lot, and letting the auto pilot drive it.The kids enjoyed the panoramic roof, the legroom in the back seat, and the acceleration. The boot was also more than big enough. Only problem was that the back seat was too narrow for our needs. We won't be able to comfortably fit all 3 kids in the back when our youngest one moves on to the next size child seat.
Had they made the back seat the same width as the Model S, I would have placed an order for a Y already!
But how's the reliability of the X? Especially the 2017/2018 models, after rolling a few thousand.That's the Model X in 5 seat or 7 seat. Had a 2019 X and the back seat is nice and flat (and wide). You can definitely get 3 car seats across.
I have no experience (outside of service loaners) with 2017/2018 models. BUT given that loaner experience I can tell you the Raven refresh Model X (late 2019-late 2021) has a far better air suspension than the older vehicles if that matters to you.But how's the reliability of the X? Especially the 2017/2018 models, after rolling a few thousand.