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2 Powerwalls won't be able to handle that much energy produced on a sunny day, so you'll have problems running off grid. See here:
New PowerWall install woes
It may work if you overpanel by a lot (meaning use a smaller inverter), but unless your inverted peak power is far under the panel spec power, like from significant shading for example, your setup is going to be a problem. Three Powerwalls is what you want to get.
... Why would they even have that in the configuration tool of their store if it's not supported?
It’s supported, however your site visit will need to stress the amount of constant amperage you need to draw and at what voltage.This is very concerning, as I had just ordered the same layout as OP today (16kW + 2PW). Why would they even have that in the configuration tool of their store if it's not supported?
It’s supported, however your site visit will need to stress the amount of constant amperage you need to draw and at what voltage.
2pw = 60a constant @ 220v
3pw = 90a constant and so on as you add each PW.
The system will not shut down. The inverters handle the “problem” you’re creating and cycle on and off as needed. My system is much larger than my storage side.Not sure what the draw has to do with the panels overpowering the Powerwalls. Basically the problem with 2 Powerwalls is that the power has nowhere to go when in off grid mode at full solar production. The system will shut down. Maybe if you're drawing constant power in an outage you can get away with it, but that seems like a really unstable and unpredictable setup.
Unless your electrician was joking, he doesn't know anything about this. Excess power never goes into the ground.Well, this is something else to figure out, but I was meeting with my electrician yesterday and he said the excess power goes into the ground. It makes sense because no matter how many Powerwalls you have they could be fully charged when you go off grid so it would not matter how many there are
Unless your electrician was joking, he doesn't know anything about this. Excess power never goes into the ground.
He wasn't joking, but he is a bit on the spectrum so I believe I asked the question incorrectly, which is not hard to do with electronics.
Anyway, posted the first draft layout on "Post your Layout."
It is interesting that some very basic questions elicit complex answers. The state of my understanding is now this.
1. The classic diagram, which one now gets with a Tesla or other modern system, shows electricity flowing from the panels to either the home, the grid, or the home/grid. If its nighttime there is nothing coming from the panels.
2. Throw in a Powerwall or two, and then you have another source of power to either grid or house.
3. If there is a power outage, the whole system shuts off, so that no power will be fed back into the grid to a downed line or something.
4. The answer to the follow up question ("you mean the system does not work in an outage? Seriously?) is that solar panes themselves can be, and are, "turned off" in some technical way if needed. I don't understand how this happens, but it does happen. Its not as if the panels keep on producing electricity and it "goes" somewhere.
5. Modern systems, especially ones with a Powerwall, operate to shut off the connection to the grid and then the panels are "allowed" to keep producing energy to the house or the Powerwall. This is kind of a key feature, obviously. I believe one could also do this manually, by switching ones self "off" the grid voluntarily. I have seen youtube videos to that effect.
1. Yep
So, in this situation, your gateway prevents power from leaving your home. It sends power to either your home, and your batteries. If your batteries are full, the gateway forces the solar panels off (the concerns that people are talking about if you dont have enough storage to go with your PV system). The power doesnt "go to ground", in an outage, the power generated by your Solar either goes to your home to power your loads, goes to the powerwall to replinish the batteries, or gets shut off completely if there is nowhere for it to go.
In the system you are contemplating, with PV (solar) that size, and only 2 powerwalls, you definitely would have "nowhere for the solar to go" often, since there is so much power being theoretically produced. The batteries would fill up very fast, then force the solar off (it does this by raising the frequency).
Are you certain? Why wouldn't the TEG be smart enough to know that "batteries are full, I should send any excess electricity to the grid"?
The context of that comment is "in a power outage"
You are fast! Thanks for the clarification
No problem.. im sitting here reading TMC while watching my wife play Animal Crossing.. shes all exited about the new swimming, etc (big video game household here, even though my wife and I are empty nesters now).
Yep, the hot tub is not getting backed up, nor I think, will the two EV chargers. The two Powerwalls can run the rest of the place either short or longer term .
it’s not often mentioned that not having a Powerwall means the system might not work at all in an outage!