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Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by Lessmog, Feb 3, 2018.

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  1. Lessmog

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    In my eyes, the US is right now celebrating the centennary of Uljanov's putsch in Russia: This is nothing less than a coup. A bit ironic to see it perpetrated in the Homeland and against the IC who have been so efficient abroad in that line of activity over the last half a century at least.

    Hope to be wrong and would love to see some evidence of that, but not holding my breath. :eek:
     
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  2. Reciprocity

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    Wow this thread derailed quickly right at the closing Bell. It's now all impeach, tax and spend more as if 20 trillion in debt is not enough. Paul Krugman, the guy who said the market would never recover from Trump on election day? Higher wages = bad because the public sector won't be happy. Is this bizarro world now? Increase regulations and taxes to make people want to do business in KC, you forgot to add increase corruption for the trifecta of what business really like in their political class. This basically defines Illinois where taxes go up every year and companies and population are fleeing and corruption is so common place that no one brings it up any more. We have guys who raise property taxes who run law firms on the side to lower your property taxes. This is literally like paying the mob for protection.

    If wages don't go up and inflation always does, how does everyone not go bankrupt it how are they able to retire and pay medical expenses that double every year? The answer is they don't, they work themselves to death instead. But only those that can even get a job.

    After a market goes up 50% in 12 months it tends to have a correction. This market was over due and 3% is not a correction it's a it's a tiny blip. Yes it's Trump's fault for making the market go up so fast for so long to need a correction but would have rather the market went up 10% and had a correction of 3% or more? Paul Krugman has all the credibility of Mark B speigal with his comments that the market would never recover from the Trump election. Even a novice could see that sticks simply rotated from Clinton policy friendly sticks to Trump policy friendly sticks as no one expected Trump to win. If you recall the market was down over night 600+ points then opened and shot directly up to close with a massive gain while libs in the media where screaming to get your money out of the market and hide it under your bed.

    If the stimulus would have been 3 times larger, the unwinding, which is what is causing this correction due to higher short term rates. This is due to fed unwinding the bond purchased that kept those rates low for far too long and are now abruptly going up. This is what did causing the small, hopefully, correction you are seeing now. In the long run, more normalized rates are critical because it's the only tool the Fed has to fight inflation and stimulate in the case of a resession, which is invertible no matter who is impeached or who is President.

    This president is not getting impeached. His approval ratings are on the rise because his policies are good for voters. Lower taxes, jobs and higher wages will drive voters to the polls more then claims of Russian collision, whatever that means. Good luck finding Anyone who voted for Trump because a Russian facebook ad, lol. Who even clicks on face book ads. If you could buy and election of $200,000 in Facebook ads then there is no way Trump is not reelected for 4 more years because he can afford a lot of facebook ads.

    Paul Krugman, lol. The mark b speigal of economist. If buying Twitter followers can get you elected then all hail mark b, our next president.
     
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    I respect other's political perspectives. Clearly people like discussing their political views here. We really should have a political thread. That stuff doesn't need to fill the market action thread.
     
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    We do, but it's locked.
     
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    Let's outsource military to Russia save lots of money. Bigger tax cuts. Winning.
     
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    For a bull market we need open borders and higher taxes.
    Everybody knows that.
     
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    That will be next. As a consequence of outsourcing the Presidency to Russian security agencies and Putin.
     
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  8. Reciprocity

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    Putin is doing a great job then. Go Putin!
     
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    Simple fix.. raise the retirement age for benefits. Social security was never meant to be a retirement plan but a backup for those who lived past being able to work. Start raising it 6 months every 2 years for the next 20, then 6 months ever 5 years forever. If people stop living longer then it can be leveled off.

    Let people increase their ss funds.

    Reciprocity for president, I do not even know how to spell Putan so I assume I can rely on the liberal vote.
     
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    First they came for, and then they came for, then they came for...oh-uh.
     
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    I have no idea what that means.. I can tell you that if anyone comes.. It's going to be Red Dawn time if you get my reference. That second amendment makes it impossible to take any of the others from us.
     
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    I suspect it was an abbreviated (to let the reader fill in their own blanks for who/what "they" came for) reference to First they came ... - Wikipedia...
     
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  13. AZRI11

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    It's a slippery slope is all I'm saying. Trump is not Patrick Swayse, Bone spurs unfortunately.
     
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    Really, Nazis.. Dems will never get elected again calling half the country Nazis. Not an advice, keep it up.

    No one is coming for anything in this country, it's citizens are way too well armed, by design.
     
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    I'm very confused.. The reference was about country boys defending their own. Not a 70 year old president with bone spurs.
     
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    Here is a thought experiment.. How does an imbecile like Trump get elected president? Let's assume the Russians didn't trick us. Could it be that all the racist that voted for Barack Obama decided to go back to being racists an sexist and not vote for Hillary? If people loved what was going on with the country so much, why not vote for Hillary to continue that? Why vote for Trump that was going to erase everything Obama did? My point is people were so dissatisfied with the last 8 years that they voted for a guy who was clearly the antithesis of Obama. The exact opposite. People where so satisfied that maybe they where all passed out on their couches on election day?

    There is hope yet for massive government. Bernie in 2020! Raise tax rates on the rich back to 80% and pay for everyone's arts degree including everyone pouring over the boarded. What could do wrong with that?
     
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    I know. My point is Trump is for Trump no one else. All joking aside we are on a dark path. Putin has a master plan bigger than elon's.
     
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    I never made a reference to Trump. My point is that America is strong because of Americans. Not government. No matter what idiot is in charge. It's offensive to many that people think that Putin tricked them into voting for Trump. They voted for smaller government and a strong military and borders. Best a can tell, Trump is standing up to Putin more then Obama and Hillary ever did. Maybe that is part of the sinister plan. Next thing Trump will be giving Putin all of our uranium..... I mean the rest that he doesn't already have.
     
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    #19 Reciprocity, Feb 3, 2018
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    Lol... Putin can barely keep his own people subdued. If and when oil finally collapses, so will Putin. Elon is also going to put their space agency out of business.

    How much solar is Putin installing? It can't be zero but I would guess pretty close.

    Edit: what happened to the libs who mocked Romney when he said Putin was a threat? When Obama whispered to the Russian secretary of state that he would have more flexibility to give Putin what he wanted after the election? Or Hillary's reset button. Trump is infinitly stronger on Russian and pretty much everything else.. Iran North Korea and yes China. These are not our friends, they want America diminished.
     
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    That's on thing you may have right. Trump will end up biting the hand that feeds him. Putin's hand, Trump being the dog.
     
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