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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 Plus Tires - 18"

Discussion in 'Model 3: Driving Dynamics' started by Thunder7ga, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Thunder7ga

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    #1 Thunder7ga, Sep 12, 2019
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    Last week I had new tires put on the Model 3 RWD (18") at 35,568 miles and 14 months of ownership. All 4 tires were nearly at 2/32" across the tread, so the wear was very even. I wanted to try a different tire other than the OEM Michelin Primacy MXM4. After much research and soul searching on what was important to me for tires and the "feel/experience" of the car, I landed on the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 Plus tires. Over the last week, I have put about 600 miles on them and here are my thoughts:

    1. Handling/Comfort - The tires are really grippy. The handling the car is very snug and feels really good and is MUCH better than the OEMs. They are also very smooth, the ride is fantastic, and handles bumps and gaps in the road really well. I like the overall comfort of these tires more than the OEMs.

    2. Noise - I have no noticeable noise increase at all. I really almost think it is quieter. In reality, it may just be the same. But it definitely is not any louder.

    3. Appearance - They seem a bit wider and provide a little more rim lip coverage than the OEMs. I hope that may give a tiny bit of extra protection from rim rash. The tread contact to the road is definitely wider than OEM. I believe OEM has a 7.7" width while these are 8.1". Overall, its a nice looking sporty tire.

    4. Efficiency - as expected, this is the only real negative. There is absolutely a hit here. I am seeing on average about 25-30 wh/mil increase. This is not terrible, and really may only be an issue on a road trip, but this car still has a ton of miles and don't expect that to impact any driving anxiety at all.

    5. Cost - these are cheaper than the OEMs, but I think any "EV" tire is going to be more at this point and the fact that they are usually only targeted toward the EV community which is still small at this point. So this was a positive as well.

    6. Wishes - I hope they last longer than the OEMs. I put a lot of miles on my car with my daily commute, but I really don't want to have to buy tires every year. I want them to last at least 50,000 miles, but that may be a dream too, as these have a 45,000-mile warranty. So, in reality, I hope to at least get that much life out of them.
     
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  2. tna9001

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    Those are great tires. I’ve had them on my BMW M3’s and gotten 35k miles or so on them.
     
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  3. Skione65

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    You want REAL GRIPPY PERFORMANCE? Next time go with Michelin PS4s! I know....it’s a Summer Performance Tire and then you’ll have to swap for winters. True. Then swap with Michelin PA4s!!! Grip to High Heaven. Have to Pay to Play.

    Ski
     
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  4. Thunder7ga

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    Not interested....I want to stay with an All-Season tire.....but yes, naturally a summer time will be more grippy.
     
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    Did you go with the 235/45 or the 245/45?
     
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    I had the Pilot Sport A/S on my BMW 328 for 10 years, and I really liked them. But I ran them at the BMW recommended pressure of 34 psi. Tesla, however, recommends 42 psi on the OEM tires. What pressure are you using on you Pilot Sport tires? (BTW, I bought my pilot sports through Costco, which made them a great deal).
     
  7. pilotSteve

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    I just replaced my OEM Primacy tires (at 29,000 miles, even wear but not much tread 3mm left) with Pilot sport A/S 3 Plus (19" OEM wheels) on my 2017 S90D. Very pleased with the ride quality and smoothness. Purchased thru Discount Tire and they installed and balanced. $1,080 including install, road damage warranty, old tire disposal fee, etc.
     
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  8. Thunder7ga

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    I stuck with the OEM size...235/45. I thought about going to the 245s, but ultimately decided the additional potential loss of efficiency was not worth it.
     
  9. Thunder7ga

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    42 cold at the moment, and that is what the tire place set them too.
     
  10. jkoya

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    @Thunder7ga - Thanks for your review of the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ !! I have been considering the A/S 3+ and the Michelin CrossClimate+, but had been leaning toward the A/S 3+. Your comments are much appreciated !
     
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  11. Petrlol

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    Gah you had me until the 10% range loss. Jees, that would be not so fun on road trips.
     
  12. jkoya

    jkoya NA2 NSX

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    I have the 20" OEM Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires, so I'm hoping 18" Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires will be a wash, range wise....
     

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