HellsKitchen
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Hahaha. Gettin' my kicks! You're a weirdo, Mr. Roboto.Do you get kicks from calling one of the richest man on earth a toddler? You really seem to be envious of him.
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Hahaha. Gettin' my kicks! You're a weirdo, Mr. Roboto.Do you get kicks from calling one of the richest man on earth a toddler? You really seem to be envious of him.
Do other EV’s come with free mobile chargers? I had a Chevy Volt and it didn’t. So, I bought a Clipper Creek home charger. As a result, I’ve never used the free Tesla mobile charger.
This is so BULLSHIT, I hope Elon comes to his senses. I have friends with cars on order and I wonder if they will be grandfathered since the UMC was part of their purchase agreement.
Then let those 80% chose not to include it when they order. Bam! 80% saved for Telsa. Then the other 20% can have something they really want or need.Guess 80% of the people never use it. So it makes sense costwise to stop delivering them as standard equipment and sell them (with a profit) to those who want one…..
Then Tesla should ship the mobile chargers when available. Not just decide to not include a critical piece of the car after I've already orderedBy the way I am feeling upset about this decision as much as next guy but I already own Tesla and have a charger so in the end I will be fine. If I didn’t have one I would order Wall charger or one of many 3rd party chargers on the market. Pretty sure this whole mess is about supply chain problems and not just simple money grab.
Good for you. Screw everyone else right?I already own Tesla and have a charger so in the end I will be fine.
Didn’t say that. I said I am upset about it too. But there is always other options. Also I encourage everyone to Twit to Elon about theirs displeasure!!!Good for you. Screw everyone else right?
Nonsense, more FUD regarding EVSE chargers on Amazon. YMMVI've never taken a poll esp. given that we have LOTS of Teslas at my work and free L2 charging (including numerous Tesla wall connectors).
That said, until the recent development of the mobile connector no longer being included, if a Tesla buyer/lessee asked on Slack at work or asked me directly, I'd also suggest they ignore prodding Tesla had (e.g. Home Charging and Wall Connector), just find out what outlets they have or max amperage circuit they support, then get the correct Gen 2 NEMA Adapters for their existing or future outlet instead of wasting $ on getting a Tesla wall connector installed.
For many US Tesla drivers, I suspect that charging away from home using their mobile connector is pretty rare or nil.
To add to what jcanoe said, to find charging on the road that is non-Tesla, strongly recommend one checks Plugshare (web site and app) and filter by compatible plugs (e.g. both Tesla plugs, J1772 (one SAE J1772 Charging Adapter is included free with the car). If one can charge w/CHAdeMO or CCS via optional adapters, add those too. CHAdeMO Adapter was quietly pulled from the US store months ago w/no explanation that I know of. I wouldn't recommend CCS w/a Tesla at this point (very long story). CCS1 on mature vehicles w/native CCS1 inlets and support is mostly ok (from my personal experience of tons of CCS charging my former '19 Bolt).
Finding NEMA 14-50 or other outlets beyond NEMA 5-15 (you'd need the right adapter, see Gen 2 NEMA Adapters) out in the wild (except for homes, campgrounds or RV parks) can be challenging. It's usually not worth the waste of time. You're better off looking for what I mentioned.
And, yes, all of NEMA connector - Wikipedia are NEMA plugs, not just 14-50.
BTW, when people keep pointing to random (mostly no-name) J1772 EVSEs on Amazon, I do NOT recommend that. The below are a few examples of reasons why:
Charge Port Meltdown,
Another “Which L2 Charger Should I Buy” Thread (ok, ok...
Stick w/a major reputable brand, hopefully UL-listed or equivalent. You are likely better off waiting for a Tesla mobile connector or wall connector to come back in stock than going w/random no-name ones on Amazon.
Not that I could see perusing my paperwork from October.Was it part of the purchase agreement? Trying to locate it in mine.
And that is simply pretty freaking low move on Tesla's partAccording to eletrek, even if you ordered before the removal of the mobile charger, you’re still not getting it :|
Update 2: According to Tesla’s chat, unless you’ve already delivery, Mobile chargers are now no longer included even though they were at time of purchase.
It would be better if they just gave people the option to either take the car without the mobile charger or defer delivery so that they can ship the cars to people who don't need them immediately.Then Tesla should ship the mobile chargers when available. Not just decide to not include a critical piece of the car after I've already ordered
That's messed up. I am would have been able to charge on my CP Home until I got the WC installed if my vehicle had been delivered without a mobile charger but that's because I have a PHEV. Some people are getting Teslas as their first plug in vehicle and may not have anything to charge with, and I wouldn't recommend buying a cheap J1772 charger because the experience is so much better when using a Tesla charger.According to eletrek, even if you ordered before the removal of the mobile charger, you’re still not getting it :|
Update 2: According to Tesla’s chat, unless you’ve already delivery, Mobile chargers are now no longer included even though they were at time of purchase.
I see your wink, but just to be clear, we've seen numerous cases of bad J1772 handles on Mustart EVSEs causing melted inlets. The below are a few on forums outside of some EV FB groups I'm on:Nonsense, more FUD regarding EVSE chargers on Amazon. YMMV
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this.Pretty sure your posts on the forum are useless as usual.
I have 5 neighbor families, total 7 Tesla cars, all of them use mobile connector. your suspect is 100% wrong.I've never taken a poll esp. given that we have LOTS of Teslas at my work and free L2 charging (including numerous Tesla wall connectors).
That said, until the recent development of the mobile connector no longer being included, if a Tesla buyer/lessee asked on Slack at work or asked me directly, I'd also suggest they ignore prodding Tesla had (e.g. Home Charging and Wall Connector), just find out what outlets they have or max amperage circuit they support, then get the correct Gen 2 NEMA Adapters for their existing or future outlet instead of wasting $ on getting a Tesla wall connector installed.
For many US Tesla drivers, I suspect that charging away from home using their mobile connector is pretty rare or nil.
To add to what jcanoe said, to find charging on the road that is non-Tesla, strongly recommend one checks Plugshare (web site and app) and filter by compatible plugs (e.g. both Tesla plugs, J1772 (one SAE J1772 Charging Adapter is included free with the car). If one can charge w/CHAdeMO or CCS via optional adapters, add those too. CHAdeMO Adapter was quietly pulled from the US store months ago w/no explanation that I know of. I wouldn't recommend CCS w/a Tesla at this point (very long story). CCS1 on mature vehicles w/native CCS1 inlets and support is mostly ok (from my personal experience of tons of CCS charging my former '19 Bolt).
Finding NEMA 14-50 or other outlets beyond NEMA 5-15 (you'd need the right adapter, see Gen 2 NEMA Adapters) out in the wild (except for homes, campgrounds or RV parks) can be challenging. It's usually not worth the waste of time. You're better off looking for what I mentioned.
And, yes, all of NEMA connector - Wikipedia are NEMA plugs, not just 14-50.
BTW, when people keep pointing to random (mostly no-name) J1772 EVSEs on Amazon, I do NOT recommend that. The below are a few examples of reasons why:
Charge Port Meltdown,
Another “Which L2 Charger Should I Buy” Thread (ok, ok...
Stick w/a major reputable brand, hopefully UL-listed or equivalent. You are likely better off waiting for a Tesla mobile connector or wall connector to come back in stock than going w/random no-name ones on Amazon.
And, do they do a lot of charging using their mobile connector away from home?I have 5 neighbor families, total 7 Tesla cars, all of them use mobile connector. your suspect is 100% wrong.
I don’t think the apple analogy holds. First apple was an extremely mature brand. Many people were on like there 3rd or 4th iPhone. I had charging blocks all over the house (and every single 3rd party one works just as well, that cost 5 bucks). Years later I still haven’t had to buy one. Yes it saved them some margin. As for headphone jack I think they didn’t like it for the aesthetics of the phone.There are a ton of analogies to Apple removing the headphone jack (and headphones) and the charger from iPhones. Apple made up a bunch of BS about 'no one using corded headphones anymore' and 'the 3.5mm jack is old and obsolete.' In reality, these were just excuses they made up to justify removing them. The same goes with Tesla - they want to remove the mobile connector so they come up with a story that 'no one uses the mobile connector anyway' as an excuse to justify what they want to do.
If there's a supply shortage, fine. Come out and say it and ship them when they can get the parts. They could also give people a credit in the Tesla shop towards a wall connector or something else. Simply removing it outright is little more than a money grab.