A few thoughts here...
@gearchruncher is absolutely right about C8 unavailability without paying huge markup (whether for brand new or a barely used flip). A friend is trying to order a C8 Z06 preferably, or at least a regular C8 for a reasonable MSRP-ish price, and it just ain't happening for anyone without a hookup. Either the dealer has an endless waitlist already or they're charging huge ADM, still with a line!
@raptor5244 Interesting about the C8 being less engaging on track. I've never had the opportunity to drive any Corvette truly hard, but in casual driving of C6 and C5 I never found them engaging as a potential daily driver either. I sort of assumed they'd wake up on the track but sounds like maybe not as much as I'd hope. Though the sheer speed they can deliver has to be thrilling on its own... (But yes your ZL1 can deliver that too!)
I liked the *idea* of a Corvette, and you can't argue with their performance, but driving them on regular streets definitely brought to mind the saying that it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Though the sound of the new C8 Z06 alone would make daily driving fun.
As for EV performance, yeah at the moment the only *world-beating* EV performer at all speeds is the S Plaid and it's unfortunately a huge, yoke-afflicted Model S, but the M3P is damn fun and engaging in its own right even if it can't keep up at high speeds with powerful ICE cars. And comparing an M3P to a ZL1 is just off, the ZL1 is kitted out with a level of handling upgrades and track focus that Tesla just doesn't offer from the factory. My M3P is a lot more engaging and handles much much better now with lighter wheels + better tires + better dampers + some bushings upgrades. Not saying it compares to a ZL1, I've no idea there, just saying Tesla left a lot on the table, even for a completely street-focused car (I'm not tracking my M3P for the foreseeable future). Whereas a ZL1 is much closer to maximizing that car's potential while still keeping it mostly street friendly. (And I can't imagine the ZL1 is remotely as good at being a relaxing DD too like a Model 3... they're just different cars aimed at very different things from the factory.)
Once someone brings the Plaid drivetrain tech to a smaller, more nimble, more engaging car - like the Model 3 or a future new Roadster - you're going to have a hell of a ridiculously fast and fun performance car. No that car doesn't exist yet but for sure it will come, we all just need some patience, and in the meantime by all means enjoy the ZL1.
Has anybody tried to stuff a Plaid drivetrain into a Model 3 yet?
@gearchruncher is absolutely right about C8 unavailability without paying huge markup (whether for brand new or a barely used flip). A friend is trying to order a C8 Z06 preferably, or at least a regular C8 for a reasonable MSRP-ish price, and it just ain't happening for anyone without a hookup. Either the dealer has an endless waitlist already or they're charging huge ADM, still with a line!
@raptor5244 Interesting about the C8 being less engaging on track. I've never had the opportunity to drive any Corvette truly hard, but in casual driving of C6 and C5 I never found them engaging as a potential daily driver either. I sort of assumed they'd wake up on the track but sounds like maybe not as much as I'd hope. Though the sheer speed they can deliver has to be thrilling on its own... (But yes your ZL1 can deliver that too!)
I liked the *idea* of a Corvette, and you can't argue with their performance, but driving them on regular streets definitely brought to mind the saying that it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Though the sound of the new C8 Z06 alone would make daily driving fun.
As for EV performance, yeah at the moment the only *world-beating* EV performer at all speeds is the S Plaid and it's unfortunately a huge, yoke-afflicted Model S, but the M3P is damn fun and engaging in its own right even if it can't keep up at high speeds with powerful ICE cars. And comparing an M3P to a ZL1 is just off, the ZL1 is kitted out with a level of handling upgrades and track focus that Tesla just doesn't offer from the factory. My M3P is a lot more engaging and handles much much better now with lighter wheels + better tires + better dampers + some bushings upgrades. Not saying it compares to a ZL1, I've no idea there, just saying Tesla left a lot on the table, even for a completely street-focused car (I'm not tracking my M3P for the foreseeable future). Whereas a ZL1 is much closer to maximizing that car's potential while still keeping it mostly street friendly. (And I can't imagine the ZL1 is remotely as good at being a relaxing DD too like a Model 3... they're just different cars aimed at very different things from the factory.)
Once someone brings the Plaid drivetrain tech to a smaller, more nimble, more engaging car - like the Model 3 or a future new Roadster - you're going to have a hell of a ridiculously fast and fun performance car. No that car doesn't exist yet but for sure it will come, we all just need some patience, and in the meantime by all means enjoy the ZL1.
Has anybody tried to stuff a Plaid drivetrain into a Model 3 yet?